I don't recall actually SEEING a ghost that I knew was a ghost. Well, on one occasion I saw my father-in-law riding a bicycle on the other side of the street 6 months after he had died. He looked at me and gave me a great big smile.
I have felt ghosts. On my way home from a remedial English class that was held at the student dormitory, I felt a hand on my shoulder pressing down. I turned around, thinking it was one of the students who wanted a ride into town and found there was no one there. Later I discovered that a taxi driver of my acquaintance had been killed at the same spot on the road where I felt the hand. One of the older people in the neighborhood said the deceased was probably just saying hello to me.
We lived in a new building that had just been completed on empty land. After a few months, one of the people on the 2nd floor died of a stroke - suddenly - no illness, etc. One week later, one of the people who cleaned the building dropped dead of a stroke - again no past history. One week later and person playing mahjong on the 3rd floor also died - in mid play - of a stroke. We, the tenants, got up in arms and had the owner sent for a Priest (I must say here this is in Japan and it was a Shinto Priest) to cleanse the land. This is usually done before any building or rebuilding is done, but the owner wanted to save a little money. After the cleansing, nothing untoward happened and has not to this day, as far as I know. On checking the history of this particular piece of land, it was discovered that it was, in fact, the execution ground during the Edo era in Japan; site of beheadings and crucifictions. It is believed these poor souls still were around the area.
When I was stlll in the States, I often attended Florence Becker's church in San Francisco and later became acquainted with Dr.
Richard Ireland of Phoenix. (Now you will start to be able to guess my age, I am afraid.) The books dictated by Jane Roberts about the Seth readings have also been of interest to me.
Well, you must be getting tired of reading this by now, so I will stop. Can't promise to visit this site every day, but will try to.
OH, yes, about the cold breeze on a summer evening being the spirit of a departed soul - I heard this from my mother who heard it from her grandmother - a Norwegian lady. And, yes, I have felt those breezes.
Posted: Apr 1, 08 3:47pm
Yes, they are clearly a fact. Is the nature of that fact which has me puzzled.
TheInquiringEye
Posted: Apr 5, 08 12:10pm
My excellent friend;
Not in the LEAST surprising I should find you here. May I sit down beside you? I am very interested in everyones experiences along these lines. All my life I have been very curious as to the realms of parapsychology. I, myself, have experienced some very unconventional happenings...but...I would like to know more of what others experience, so, I will remain silent for now and let others speak. What about you, Jackie? Have you ever had any experiences relating to these things? I am eager to hear.
Always;
Trin
Posted: Apr 6, 08 11:44am
I am curious...it has been a constant with me for some time now I have wondered if parapsychology and physics (or quantum physics) have similiarities which could lead to a deeper understanding of what we should like to title; "the hereafter," or "beyond death." ceasing to be, etc.
Perhaps I am not clear in my meaning. What I mean to say is this; I am wondering if, in fact, parapsychology and quantum physics overlap somehow to define the undefinable...or to allow us to comprehend the incomprehensible...I don't know...
What does everyone else think? I should be very eager to know. Thank you.
Trin
Posted: Apr 6, 08 7:10pm
Hi Trin!
I dont think that it's possible to die, because I think we are already dead. We're just 'also' alive, and life makes so much noise that we miss the lighter subtilties. Jackie
Posted: Apr 7, 08 12:41pm
Salut, my excellent friend;
Now this is something I must consider very carefully. We are alive yet dead at the same instant. Jackie, I am afraid that my comprehension fails me here...but I am digging...wait, wait...okay, may I give you an example of my thinking and you give me pointers as to if I am close to gaining what your meaning is or am I far off...I am thinking...if the soul and the body are two separate entities, but reliant upon each other for "existing," on this plane...when the body "rests," and I have heard when it rests it is as close to a "clinical death," as we can get (willingly.) then do you mean the soul "lives," someplace else for the time being...and the body "dies," and then vice versa? I am probably WAY off here. Jackie, this is a very profound concept...and I'm not certain if I am able to grasp it or not. Please help me to understand...thank you...Trin
Posted: Apr 7, 08 4:11pm
I believe we are more "dead" (which is clearly the wrong term) while incarnate on this earth than we are in discarnate form. The saying "hell on earth", has meaning for me and I believe it to be true to some level. I also believe that we choose to come and experience life and learn about love and it's complicatedness. And yes, quantum physics clearly entwines in areas with metaphysics. Just my 5 cents.
Posted: Apr 9, 08 5:03pm
Mockingbird;
Thank you so much for your input. It means a great deal to me to know what others may or may think of this. It hardly seems possible, to me, that I'll ever really "conclude," anything about this...rather it inspires me to think and create...I DO believe in many aspects of spirituality, life after death, etc. I have an open mind, so if someone does not agree with my viewpoints, that is okay. That is why this site is so wonderful...we can all discuss topics of interest and have a chance to learn from others. Sometimes when people disagree, they state their point(s) for their opinions, if they so choose, and, sometimes, this will lead me into a different path of introspection. Perhaps I will change my own beliefs or even deviate from what I think now...the wonderful thing is that its all a vast learning experience, each of us bringing each other closer to insights...I just LOVE this site.
Thank you again, Mockingbird. I appreciate your input, as I feel everyone has a valuable view to consider.
Respectfully;
Trin
Posted: Apr 12, 08 3:25pm
Trin. Yes, the path to understanding different states of existence can be found leading through quantum physics. It can also be found through various spiritual practices.
I think it's important to understand that our mathematical systems, our physics, our sciences, are specific to the realm of 'reality' which we occupy. Most certainly, there are many other realities with their own 'physical' laws.
I dont see life and death so much as a place in which one resides. 'Place' is a very interesting concept (and 'concept' it is;) I dont see 'place' so much a physical reality than a vibrational state. Moreover, I suspect that these 'vibrations' can portray many levels of consciousness....but I think that's a topic for our Realities conversation...It's why some people can hear, see 'dead people' (oh god I'm throwing myself into the line of fire with that statement); they can raise their consciousness to that vibration level....
This is such an interesting topic. I'll respond to your other questions, too; I'm not ignoring them, but I HAVE to go right now...Love, Jackie
Posted: Apr 13, 08 9:57am
I became interested in the supernatural at about age 7. My brother and I fooled with ouija boards, later we conducted seances, and once we even tried to conjure up the devil in an old convent graveyard at midnight.
While our activities almost always produced discernable results, they lacked the material proof we really wanted to substantiate our experiences. Finally, as teenagers, we sought to procure that 'proof'.
We gathered several friends together in a quite room for the purpose of conducting a seance. At one end of the room we placed a tape recorder. The participants sat around a circular table, in the center on which burned a single candle. The chairs, the individuals were connected by a web of threads, to provide evidence of individual 'cheating'.
The lights were dimmed, the group held hands; we centered our attention on the flame of the candle, and willed the manifestation of a paranormal presence (ghost, to those less literate.)
At first, there was silence. I felt a cold breeze over my feet. The tension in the room increased enormously. We ended the seance, and our friends went home. (The thread remained intact.)
Though my brother and I were sorely disappointed by the lack of results, we decided we would listen to the tape, if for nothing else than formalities sake. What we heard was chilling.
A short while after everyone joined hands and settled down, there was a profound change in 'background noise'. I can best describe it as the sound of rushing water. Then, coming from some point in the room and going towards (and up to) the tape recorder, were what sounded like the footsteps of someone who was limping. When they reached the taperecorder, there came the sound of a bell ringing. The footseps receaded, the bell sounded again, the sound of 'rushing water' stopped, and, on the tape were our voices; the seance ended.
No one consiously experienced anything that was recorded on that tape. We were there, and whatever anyone else might say, we WERE there. It scared the hell out of us, and thirty years later, still chills me.
Since then, I have never actively persued contacting spirits. I've had many experiences, though I sought proof for none. I am convinced beyond doubt that it is possible to summon or amass energy, and that energy may manifest in many forms. Most importantly, we may not even be consiously aware of that energy, it's nature, it's force. I liken it to playing with 'some' TNT. It may be a few molecules, it may be a ton; one may only learn how much when playtime is over. TNT does not make for a good toy.
TheInquiringEye
Posted: Apr 9, 08 6:21pm
Edward,
Jane Roberts and her husband, Rob's works are all a part of my library. I own nearly everything that Jane wrote. I used to have to go to the actual publishing house in New Jersey to get some of the books that were not out in the bookstores back then in the very early 80's. They are exceptional and when you begin, especially with "Seth Speaks" it is an experience like no other. If like me, you may have read x number of pages and then a a soft "whisper" that I would hear in my head, would say "put the book down". Within a day or two, the "lesson" or experience that Seth was talking about or explaining would happen right in front of my face and I would follow and learn and my life became better or better understood. My son has experienced the same thing in his repeated readings of the beginning books of Jane's. Everyone that I know that have read and experienced her books have had the same experiences but of course specialized to them. I lived in NYC back during those years and Jane and Rob lived in Elmira, NY. Rob and I wrote back and forth a number of times about different theories. Jane was extremely ill and in terrible, suffering pain in her final years and against all of her wishes, Rob would not let her go. It must have been a terrible time for them both because she wanted to go on to the after life quite badly. It was quite sad really to have seen them live a life as they did and at the end, Rob couldn't let her go.
I loved reading the earlier Edgar Cayce books when I was 20 years old, 2 years after my mother's death and moved on to other well known authors, who I can't recall their names right now - oh Ruth Montgomery was one. I read so much and gleaned what I "knew" was right, at least for me. What may be "right" for another may be completely different and so for me, respect for all people's beliefs is very important.
Now, everyone and their mother or father are writing books and many of them all come down to the same things - yes, energy does not die. It is not possible. What you experience, is far more important than what you may read and be swayed into believing. Reading to understand your own experiences are great but I am wary about the new onslaught of books and emphatic declarations that they KNOW the way and they can show you for $24.95.
My experiences are vast and began when I was a very young child - at least 4. My son became sensitive to present entities when he was about a year old and developed many gifts that have been wonderful for him in his life. My gifts astound me sometimes and I feel really blessed. I have had a few negative and frightening experiences but overall I have wonderful paranormal/metaphysical experiences daily. If I listen, I learn and in turn, either my life improves or I am able to improve another's life. It's when I ignore it or forget where my focus needs to be, that my life starts to drift in ways that are clearly not beneficial for me.
And yes, that soft caress on your cheek just as you fall asleep at night, that cool breeze from no where, or that "whisper" in your ear are your loved ones on the flip side saying "hello, I love you". My dad, who died 2+ years ago cups my cheek and calls me his pet name for me when I was a young child just before I fall asleep on my tougher days. It means the world to me.
The subject is truly vast and the beliefs that it is all neurological is falling off and away more and more by neurologists, physicists, mental health practitioners and doctors/surgeons. There is more. And each person has the choice whether to ignore and deny it or learn and experience some really amazing things. Don't be afraid.
I would love to hear more from you Edward. I hope to see you contribute as much as you can.
Posted: Apr 13, 08 12:14pm
I too as a child played with Quiji boards and did seances not knowing the dangers that you can open doing this without any knowledge. My own experience with such things as well as others close to me who have done these things, had bad experiences when we were kids and the fear it created either spurred some on to learn about what occurred or they ran from it forever, never understanding.
There is a great deal to learn about metaphysics in whatever form you may have your belief system set. And there are many important activities and lessons to learn to fully understand what we read. That there is no space or time - that we en masse create space and time in this reality - is interesting but completely understandable if you believe in what physicists say. To say that it is profound is a gross understatement, but to work one's way through - to follow one's path in this way, is to discover why you've chosen to be here now.
Posted: Apr 21, 08 8:02am
Salut, Jackie;
Its strange you should start a thread upon the subject of conjuration...(hope I am spelling it correctly.) My mother read about metaphysics for years. She had a collection of books called; Man, myth and magic. She would discuss these things with me, from time to time, as I became a young adult.
My mother always warned me about conjuring anything. It seems, from my understanding, when a person conjures, they are, in fact, summoning certain "energies," as you say to them. If one dosen't know what dangers there may be, it is more than probable to conjure an "undesirable energy," i.e. devil, demons, evil, whatever word fits. It is because one leaves themselves completely open to anything...
Mom told me and my sisters about a horrible experience she had with this years ago. She, being an avid reader, got a book with incantations...she really wasn't certain about what it involved...so, late one evening, she was reading it out loud (so she could understand it.) and suddenly, she said she froze, put the book down, felt sick to her stomach and felt an intense fear...she heard "something," on the front porch...it sounded like a chain dragging across it..and something breathing very hard and a growl that she could never liken to any dog. (She said the growl was very low.) She quickly walked in her bedroom and prayed to God to protect her. She said over and over she was sorry and she didn't know what she was doing. The very next morning, she checked outside and there was no evidence to suggest anything...or anyone was near the door making those noises. Mom said when one says an incantation out loud it gives it power...she always told us girls to be very careful when dealing with such things so as not to summon something you don't want.
Very interesting thread, everyone.
Posted: Apr 27, 08 10:47pm
I was reminded the other day (for some reason or other) about something my mother told me just after my father died in the hospital and I think I will pass it along. (By the way, a year later she vehemently denied ever telling this). My father had surgery back in the 60's and the doctors simply opened him up and closed him immediately, stating it was a complete cancer mess... He stayed in the hospital, of course, and mother was there to take care of him. One day she was sitting outside the room (it was at the end of the hall and had a bench from which she could observe him) and she noticed an older lady all dressed in black coming down the hall, looking into each room Mother simply thought she must be looking for some friend/relative and thought no more about it. My father became restless and she went in to see what she could do. He calmed down a little later and she decided to go back out into the hall when she noticed a pair of black gloves in the doorway. She reasoned that the previous lady had dropped them and took them to the nurse station where the nurse took charge of them and put them into a drawer. A little later the lady was back, looking into rooms again, and father became restless again. Again, mother calmed him down, then noticed a black scarf on the door sill - almost as if it had been laid there. She took that up to the nurse station, too, and the nurse put it into the drawer with the gloves. An hour later my father died. Shortly after that mother decided she would check with the nurse and see if the gloves and scarf had been claimed - the same nurse was there and said no they had not been claimed as she had been at the desk all the time. With that she opened the drawer, but the items were no where to be found. Mother swears (at that time) that the lady was death looking for the next person to take... As I say, she denied this completely a year or so later, but when she told me (a few days after he died and when I got back to the house) she was completely sincere... I don't know what to think - a ghost story or something that really happened...
My father's mother (my grandmother) constantly had dreams of people or see them in her bedroom, only to find out the next day that they had died during the night or been killed, etc.
I think many of us simply deny these things as they simply overpower the mind. We cannot handle something like this. But I think if we just relax and take it easy, accept what comes (in a dream or vision or thought popping into the mind) we will go along much better with the universe...
I seem to be all over the place today; almost like James Joyce and his flow of consciousness. I apologize for that and will sign off now...
Posted: Apr 28, 08 2:12pm
Hi Trin.
I remember laying in my bed reading; I was about 15 or 16 yo. I became distracted by a strong feeling that someone was staring at me with INTENSE hatred. unmitigated hatred...loathing. The feeling grew so strong that I left the room. When I returned, it was gone.
TheInquiringEye
JackieRodzinski
Posted: Apr 16, 08 10:41am
Since we are now talking about "medium" stuff, I will explain how it works for me.
When I put myself into a trance to allow another energy to speak through me, I can actually "feel" myself stepping to one side and the energy speaking with my vocal chords. The sound of my voice will change and other accents or pronunciation will come out of my mouth. I am an "observer" of this situation. It is like watching yourself being used as a "puppet".
Also there has been a lot of work done with tape recordings. Apparently we "miss" things in the moment that can be heard later on tape.
Posted: Apr 16, 08 12:53pm
It is very similar for me whitemanitou. There are a few very subtle differences but I too go through a process of meditation that leads me to another process of switching realities. As time and practice has gone on now for 30 years, I can do this now fairly quickly. I also sound differently from my normal self, both in vocabulary and in the cadence of my speech. I tape recorded these sessions years ago for other people to hear and have had a few people present when I go into this trance or other state of reality.
I also can do automatic writing and typing. My spelling is not at it's best though. Big deal. And often the topic is not what I was hoping for! But after a day or 2 I'll go back and read what was written again and sometimes even a 3rd time because it feels very profound and I wonder what it is I'm missing. Often I have to look words up in the dictionary that are written as well.
The best part for me no matter what venue I use, is that I can participate as myself as well. Yes, I am separate, just off to the side say of myself, but I like the discourse very much.
Posted: Apr 17, 08 7:28pm
Hello everyone,
For me, it started way back as far as I can remember. My first experience was when my papa "passed away". I awoke that morning knowing he had passed with tears rolling down my face. I was 5 years old. I was very, very close to my Papa. I loved him very deeply. For years and years after, I would "dream" of conversations with him on a nightly basis. He would be standing next to me, while I was sitting on my stoop, and we would talk about whatever was going on during that day. My Nana, who was not a big believer in paranormal, never did believe me when I told her I could talk to Papa, until one summer when I was 13 yrs. old and she had asked me to come over and spend a couple weeks with her. Well the first night I was there, I slept in one of the twin size beds in her room and all of a sudden she gasped and I asked her what was wrong, and she said my papa was sitting at the foot of her bed. From then on she believed me, and she had several more experiences when I was around.
Also, my dad was a fireman, and I always knew when my Dad was going to get hurt on the job. I would know how, and when he was going to get injured. I would beg him not to go to work, but of course he would, and it would always happen the way I told him it would.
Sometimes I can be driving down the road, or walk somewhere and I will see someone wave, and I will smile and wave back, and when I look back there is no one there.
Another time when I was thirteen, I started having this "dream" about a woman chasing me and trying to grab me through a window of an apartment building. I had this dream for 3 months and then found out we had to move. My Mom went and found a new apartment and I never saw it until the day we moved in. The day we moved, we pulled up in front of the new place, and I was terrified because it was the building in my dreams.
Well, I grabbed a box and followed my family into the building. We went up the first flight of stairs and then had to walk down a hall to get to the next staircase. At the end of the hall, I got the most scary feeling I have ever had in my life and could not stand to be next to the door at the end of the hall. So, I grabbed the banister and swung myself around and ran up the stairs as fast as I could to the third floor where our new apartment was. I continued to do this for months because I was so afraid to be next to that door. I made friends with a girl that lived on the first floor, and after a few months she asked me one day, Why do you always run up those stairs? So I explained to her, I can't satnd to be next to the door at the end of the hall. I always feel like someone is going to grab me. A feeling of desperation. And I told her about the dream I had been having all those months before we moved in.
Well, she looked at me stunned for a minute and then went into her apartment and slammed the door. I didn't see her for a couple of days. When I saw her again, I asked her why she did that, and she said 3 months before we moved in, there was a woman that lived in that apartment. She had fallen one day, and dragged herself to that door for help because she had broken her hip. No one heard her, and she died behind that door.
Posted: Apr 17, 08 9:35pm
Great stories Terra! Have you found yourself to have other gifts with anyone other than your father?
Do you primarily find yourself "feeling" or just "knowing" things? I ask because I do.
I hope you'll share some more about yourself.
Mockingbird
Posted: Apr 18, 08 6:53am
Great stories!
TIE
Posted: Apr 18, 08 7:24am
I posted this experience on another thread. But, here it is again.
A few years ago a group of shamans (including me) duplicated an old Uwipay ceremony. We were bound head and foot, hog tied. The lights were turned out and every conceivable source of light was eliminated. The drumming began.
We asked the helping spirits to remove our bonds. As the drumming continued, I could feel invisible hands loosening the bonds. After a time I was free. The drumming continued and I sat looking around in the dark. I could see wisps of florescent clouds forming into faces. I sat looking so intensely, I saw a face forming in front of me. It was a native american warrior. He let out a loud war cry and passed through me. It felt like a freight train.
John WM
Posted: Apr 18, 08 7:58am
I am so moved! What a profound and powerful statement. Awesome! And SO BEAUTIFULLY WRITTEN!!!
Respectfully, TIE
Posted: Apr 21, 08 12:19pm
Very intense wm. Having lived in AZ and being inexplicably drawn to many aspects of the culture, I have heard such stories from others like yours. There are certain places, some call them vortexes, and there are many of them in AZ. If you are "sensitive", open and know how to protect yourself, you will experience amazing things. The two strongest places for me are in Sedona and in the area where the Anasazi once existed (and still do in other ways.)
Posted: Apr 19, 08 7:43am
Yes Mockingbird,
Actually I do. My husbands great uncle John passed away about 2 years ago now. The night he passed, it was about 10 pm, and I was sitting in my room when I felt a cold swirl around me and a feeling like "help me". I tried to focus in to see if I could, but to no avail. I just kept getting a feeling of heaviness. One of my friends was over and sitting with me, and felt the coldness too. Well the next morning my husband called me to tell me about his uncle and I asked him when he passed, but he didn't know. So I told him it was 10 pm. He called his dad to ask if he knew what time it was, and his dad confirmed it was in fact 10 pm.
About 6 months after that my sister-in-laws mom was in a nursing home because she had fallen and broken her hip. She was recovering very nicely and said she didn't want to return home because she was so comfortable and happy where she was. So my sister-in-law went to see her everyday. They had made plans to go out for lunch one day the following week.
Well, that same day I was getting terrible pains in my sides and I was freezing all day. I just couldn't figure out what was wrong with me. I couldn't shake the pain, and I couldn't warm up. Her mom passed away that afternoon from kidney failure and hadn't shown any symptoms but being cold and not being able to warm up.
There are many instances like these. However, since my brother Dan, and my best friend Ansel have passed I have not gotten any thing from them, and this greatly saddens me, as I thought for sure I would get some sign from them.
Posted: Apr 21, 08 12:26pm
It's not unusual for some "time" to pass after someone close to you passes. I'm not referring to what some experience, as a good bye apparition.
Your sadness can have an effect on your sensitivity as well. Give it time - remember, time doesn't really exist for them. Learn how to speak to them - in a way, leave them a message and when it is the right time, they'll receive it. Be as open as you can and be sure that your awareness is as heightened as it can be because "contact" can be easily missed through this type of communication.
I'm sorry honey for your loss, but its just temporary. A lifetime on Earth is but a blink of an eye on the flip side.
Posted: Apr 21, 08 1:34pm
Mockingbird, I think I've mentioned some of this privately or in another thread. Some of the details, I wasn't as specific as about as now. With some of my difficulties we've talked about, I was afraid that if I told you I had "sensitivities" of this type you would think I was nuts, but then, I wasn't privy to this group then.
When my Grandmother was dying in '92, there were three things that she wanted: (1) To die in her own house, (2) she hoped that it wouldn't take too long, and (3) that I wouldn't be in the room when it happened. I'm giving the short form of the story here, for now anyway.
(1) She got to die in her own house because I could make arrangements to stay as long as it would be needed.
(2) She was dying of bladder cancer and the doctor told her it could take two months to two years. She died within 6 weeks from the day she was diagnosed.
(3) The day that she died, the nurse came in the morning like she did every day. We compared notes, checked everything that would be checked, and as the nurse left, she said to call her if I needed her before the next morning. The rest of the morning, there was no problem going in and out of the room for whatever reason.
That afternoon, starting around 12:30 or 1:00 pm, there was something of mine that I wanted to get out from under the other bed (my bed) in her room. But every time I tried to go to the bedroom, I got as far as the turn in the hall and something would happen. The doorbell would ring. The telephone would ring. Someone was at the backdoor (*that* was really unusual). Every time I thought, "That's done, now I can..." something else would happen.
Finally at 3:15/3:20 pm, I could walk into the room. The first thing that I noticed was that it seemed hazy. The second thing I noticed was that it was quiet. The dry rasp had stopped, instead of being very slow. (She had been refusing food and drink for a week/week and a half before she went comatose. This meant that the week she was comatose, I wasn't listening to her drown. The nurse said I was lucky.)
I ran out to the dining room and called the nurse. She, my uncle and I took care of the remaining details.
It always sticks with me that she did not want me in the room at the end, while she was actually leaving (the final moments of dying). And I do not believe that there was anything of a coincidence involved in keeping me out of that room between noon and 3:15 pm.
Posted: Apr 21, 08 1:57pm
Rhia,
A lot of people have experienced things like you did with your grandmother and it's often because they trust you and know that you will understand. My grandmother did this with both me and her son, my Dad, as she had different tasks for us to do involving the last three weeks of her life and how she wanted to pass over. And we did exactly as she wished.
There are no coincidences. I don't believe in luck or chance because it just seems silly within my belief system. I try to learn something or let myself be reminded of things I've "forgotten" as often as possible. "Listening" or "feeling" or "knowing" are all gifts that any one can develop or improve on.
Posted: Apr 21, 08 2:23pm
Mockingbird, I *know* the part about being the only one she trusted to do things the way she wanted. She said that to me and I've always described my being there, even while she was still alive as being there to put my foot down for her because she was too physically weak to put her own foot down for herself. From that angle, I understand it completely.
It's the taking only 6 weeks when it could have taken longer that makes things walk across my spine.
That and everything that kept happening to keep me out of the bedroom that afternoon while she left her "shell," so to speak. With the "haze" in the room (over the bed), she may have still been in the room but she was done with her body.
Posted: Apr 21, 08 3:15pm
All,
I appreciate your sharing your experiences with this group. It can be difficult speaking about them to others for fear of ridicule. As I know you are all sure, I absolutely believe your words are authentic and sincere. Others may keep themselves from experiencing these realities because to do otherwise would cause them to question too many things they have taken for granted for too many years.
John WM
Posted: Apr 22, 08 6:13am
Yes, you are correct. And thank you. I know many people who realize there is more out there, and I know several people who deny because they are too afraid to acknowledge.
Posted: Apr 22, 08 6:25am
Rhiannonn,
How wonderful that your Grandmother got her wishes. And how wonderful that you where there, even though you weren't in the room when her body passed, but you were there when her spirit was passing. How lucky and beautiful for you and her.
Posted: Apr 22, 08 11:25am
Thanks WhiteManitou and Terra.
Posted: May 3, 08 7:51pm
My family has had several experiences with ghosts. We have had them play around with our belongings to showing up on photographs. I do believe in them. We took a photograph out on the porch a couple of weeks ago and when we looked at it on the digital camera it was full of ghosts. I've never seen anything like it in my life. There were pictures of a red staff with snake heads on the top. Not something you see on the front porch!
Posted: May 4, 08 3:58am
Lanalee:
Any chance of your posting that picture? I'd love to see it.
Posted: May 4, 08 6:26am
Rhiannnonn- I'm expressing much gratitude for your fascinating telling of your grandma's spirit's passing; and also to WM, mockingbird, Lanalee, Terra, Edward, Inquiring,and others who are also sharing experiences, and being open here.
I am convinced that I am sometimes receiving visits in my dreams of my beloved, passed dad, grandma, brother, mom, and others.
I've posted on other tbd sites, that I saw and HEARD my youngest brother, who passed, at peace, from laryngeal cancer, back in '93, in our bedroom, two years ago.
I was going through enormous personal stresses at the time. At dawn; I heard a faint guitar; while slowly awakening, and my dearly departed bro was standing between our bedroom and bath; wearing the same maroon shirt and jeans that he wore to my husband's and my wedding; smiling and playing his guitar; which is what he always loved doing.
Posted: May 4, 08 8:43am
Sotherbl,
When I have those sort of dreams, I seldom doubt that that I'm being visited by relatives. During this past year, talking to my kid sister (on the phone) I found out that she had been looking for me for my mother before my mother died, but didn't find me until five days after she died. Originally I thought that she didn't even look for me until Beverly (aka mother) died.
The story is long and elsewhere on TBD, but I would not have been interested in talking to her if I had been found while she was still alive. At this point, becasue my grandmother had threatened me that she would came back and haunt me if I lifted one finger to help Beverly "when she [got] old and sick," I firmly believe that grandmother kept my sister from finding me.
Now if I could just figure out for sure who keeps turning on the stereo when I'm watching TV while I'm on the computer. I know it's not me. Sometimes, if I ignore it or if they want to make sure I'm paying attention, they turn it off again. I'm not sure if someone's saying "hello," or someone's being a pain.
Posted: May 4, 08 2:02pm
Rhi, your compelling story about your sister trying to find you; and not reaching you until 5 days after Beverly passed; is intuitive, and such a sign of communication.
Posted: May 4, 08 5:29pm
whitemanitou: My daughter has it right now but I will get her to send it to me.
Posted: May 5, 08 1:11pm
i'm with you southbl. rhia, someone is trying to get your attention = someone who has passed over to the "flip side". It's so common that they'll use electrical or battery operated things to activate = remember all things are energy. When they can't reach you in other ways, they'll do this instead.
Also, even though we may remember the same on this side of the coin, those who have passed over are not the same. In a way they "wake up" from being on this side and have their life time to look at and learn from and then go on to other discarnate issues. Most do really change and learn and feel remorse and want to comfort those they left and hurt but it doesn't mean that we on this side are ready to hear it or see it in dreams. Just say "I'm not ready yet for this with you." If you haven't taken up meditation and in connecting with your spirit guides, I'd highly recommend it. They are there and around you whether you're aware of it or not but it's nice to know them and to be able to communicate with them. They are also protective and it helps a great deal to know these things and the things that they can help with.
When my kids were pretty young, we had a lot of such activity with their toys just taking off across the floor or stereos and tvs going on, but I knew what it was and it would remind me that I'd let myself get too busy to pay attention to the other side of my "life" and I would get back in touch and all the other stuff would stop although my kids always found it hilarious!
p.s. it's not really unusual to be able to catch spirits in orb energy form with a camera if you sense spirits around. it's not uncommon for them to sometimes "show" themselves in that form either. apparitions are sometimes