No. Organic: includes a carbon atom in the chemical formula.

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Hi Fromz, yes, I have the awareness of the ph/ acid issues, but find it hard to press doctors to admit this or check their patients.

I have used some of the ph balancing products that Graham may know of and I have personally known a change in my health for the better.

While you say "many of the claims are greatly exaggerated" I have observed that these often exaggerated claims more often then not prove true later on down the road. I am not critisizing or am I a scientist, but I do observe and take note of things that often prove themselves over time.

I do things that science cannot prove, yet the results speak for themselves. I on occation cannot even explain how or why, but just accept it.

I know that may not be science, but some of what I do is now making itself know to science also. Too long a topic to get into. For this discussion, I would just like to say that even on occation, science does not always have the facts right all the time. So sharing and informing in these discussions will be helpful for a full spectrum of participants, so "bunkum" or not lets do share...with kindness. I so like learning and sharing experiences.

Graham, I will gladly share with you my personal experiences should you wish more info. Just pm me. For the discussion, I'd rather stay with the tread topic, if that is OK. This is a great opportunity to share both science and experiences we can all learn from. Fromz is an amazing resource, and maybe with what you know we can all gain some new inisights. Thanks for asking.

Hi jacquin,

You're welcome. I'm lucky, there is a great farm about 12 miles from me. If you can buy in with a few others it's not expensive at all.

As far as the organic movement goes, it's really just moving back to the way things used to grow. Simply plants/vegetables growing without chemical enhancers, pesticides, etc.

Animals able to roam a fenced area and eat clean feed, and when they are slaughtered, it's done in a more humane way. They aren't dosed with antibiotics and growth enhancers...

Good luck,

Graham

Thank you Kat, sorry about that, I'll tend to it.

Graham

Hey Eve,

Check out this article:

http://parentunderground.wordpress.com/2007/06/19/probotics-hot-nowadays-what-the-heck-is-it/

Bought a bag of baby spinach recently--supposedly prewashed, bug free, etc. I always rewash the produce I buy regardless of what the label says and even doing that I missed something. It wasn't until we were eating dinner and I went to take a bite of the salad I had made with fresh spinach in it that I made my discovery. I had a bite on my fork and paused to say something before putting the bite in my mouth. Glancing down at the bite on the fork, I noticed a neat little cluster of insect eggs near the center of the leaf.

A little extra protein for my diet, huh? No thank you! I'll grow my own and use whatever I need to to keep my food insect and insect egg free.