Heffalumps and Woozles

Dinky: What is moral about using my tax dollars to bail out corporations who bungled their own finances? And, having been in Katrina, I can tell you those in Mississippi behaved much differently than what you saw on TV. Fromz may even agree since he was there too. There is socialism which you seem to hate and fear. But, corporate socialism is every bit as bad. Instead of lazy people being bailed out, we have crooked or incompetent corporations being bailed out. Why is that any less evil? And, I'm still pissed about New Orleans getting all the press from Katrina. They got a flood. We got the eye and the hand of God clearing the beaches and destroying miles inland. The insurance I PAID FOR to cover this would not pay and even sent me a bill for the next premium. I had to pay out of my own pocket to have my home gutted and repaired. We lost everything including irreplaceable pictures and documents.It is a trauma you cant imagine until it happens to you. Contractors were there from all over charging exhorbitant rates. I saw fights break out at Lowes (when they finally opened) over sheetrock and insulation. Dont judge all by what you see on TV

whitemanitou,

Where do you and mrwrite get this idea that Dinky, or myself for that matter, support corporate socialism? No where have I written that I support it, and I can't recall Dinky ever having said so. I'm not sure I've ever met a conservative that does. It is the politicians in Washington who support that. And just like most everyone else, the corporations are more than glad to step up to the trough. I'd rather they accept their fate and make way for properly run, healthy companies to take their place.

As for your losses, I am very sorry to hear about that. You are correct of course. I can't, and don't, want to imagine having to go through that. Though it wasn't reported on much, I think I remember hearing that places like Mississippi received more damage than did New Orleans. What you definitely didn't hear was the people outside of New Orleans whining and waiting for the government to do something. They stepped up and did the job themselves. Quite an admirable example for the rest of us.

If you are correct that your insurance should have covered your losses, and they didn't do so, then that could constitute criminal behavior on their part. At the least, you should be able to sue. Of course, that can involve another kind of trauma. One recourse you may have, if too much time hasn't passed, is to get your state Insurance Commissioner or equivalent involved. As little as I like government, I must admit that I've seen many examples of that particular department being very helpful to individuals when their insurance tried to deny a claim.

I wish you the best of luck, Sir.

Whiteman; You ask…”What is moral about using my tax dollars to bail out corporations who bungled their own finances?" Not a damn thing, It’s immoral and a despicable thing to do.

"Instead of lazy people being bailed out, we have crooked or incompetent corporations being bailed out. Why is that any less evil?" In my vision, it is totally evil, keep in mind, I only have one vote against such evils. Socialism in any form just doesn’t work.

“There is socialism which you seem to hate and fear.” Fear, no, hate, yes. A socialist utopia is not what I see as my vision for America. Socialism steals the soul and deprives a person from seeking their own vision in life. I know you see no danger in that way of life, I do. I don’t think there is a middle ground to this debate, but if someone can sell me on why socialism is so great and why I should see it differently, do tell.

Katrina, was awful, I know the losses were devastating, I do not believe for one minute that everyone who lived through that behaved badly, but many did and that’s my point.

As for… “They got a flood. We got the eye and the hand of God clearing the beaches and destroying miles inland.” Lets face it, the losses in the mid-West are far greater that the losses suffered from Katrina. This is not to say your losses were insignificant, not saying that at all, just saying the scope of the loss is and was different, and to minimize their losses is beneath you.

I am very sorry for your losses on all fronts. I do not condone criminal behavior in any form, I pray that the legal system has options against the insurance companies and that you get at least some recovery from the courts.

You still have to admit that the people in the mid-West who typically do not have an entitlement mentality and those folks who do exhibited behavior quite differently.

I am also sure there are untold stories in both tragedies, and I’m not minimizing the hurt and loss all Americans are suffering because of situations beyond their control and for that I am so sorry.

I am glad to have you here in California, now I know first hand that we have a better quality liberal in the Northern part of the State, where all the loony lefties hang out.

I am not really good at these political conversations, but as a business owner, I am irate that not everyone pays. I have been told that there are many "programs" where foreigners in this country pay no tax for the first ten or fifteen years. Why? IF that didn't happen there would be many more tax dollars in the coffers.

It is another attempt of the liberal left in this country to "level the playing field" and bury existing businesses with the excess dirt. I had a neighbor who was a legal immigrant from Vietnam [one of the Boat People] and when his "business grant" ran out and the government tax breaks stopped, his business went bust faster than a lying liberal.

He applied for another special grant for underprivileged and disabled persons, and he and his family got just over $1,000,000. in unsecured loans and government grants. He's a nice guy and crafty, but... not a good businessman, he doesn't have to be, the government [that's you and me] will keep bailing him out and forgiving his loans.

You or I can't qualify for those exempted grants and unsecured loans. Sorry, a vote for Obama and his policy's, is just more of the same welfare state.

I have spoken out against this sort of thing before and been accused of being a bigot by Fromz. I dont see where Obama would make it any worse. It has been going on through both party's administrations. I haven't seen Bush do anything to stop this.

Which is just part of the reason I am a Libertarian with so-called conservative values.