A Bit 'o Science

I agree, wmans ... there comes a point in the extremes of scientific and religious (particularly Eastern systems) where the two approach each other. But the purpose of this particular group, is to keep the focus on science and the scientific method. Where "Kharma" or "zen" fit in the scientific process of things is an interesting question. What hypotheses would we propose to test them? We're back to definitional issues again. Probably for the purposes of this group in general and this string in particular the conversation should stay with the science. There are other groups for religion, Buddhism, Zen and the like.

Thanks, But I would say it is more an argument for Metaphysicians (Is that a real word, or did Ayn Rand just make it up?) Defining the terms is a linguistic matter, but given some of the arguments I've seen among Linguists, I'm not sure they'd actually clarify anything.

Jon, I totally agree with you. That is why my last post was brief--before I got too far afield. Thanx

And Randy, the word meta-physics was coined--trust me on this--when archeotypes were putting together the surviving works of Aristotle and simply filed the "philosophcal" works after(meta) the physics.

Have noticed that Linguists have a tendency to be argumentative. Should that surprise us? Not!

wmans,

I was just wondering about the specific term, "metaphysician", not meta-physics. I can't recall ever having seen it, other than in the writings of Ayn Rand. Good word though, even if she did invent it. I guess I could look it up in my OED. I didn't spend all that money for nothing. Lol

Then theres the elastic universe. Nothing exists at the boundary of this and the next/previous universe. Everything pops out as far as energy and gravity will allow then snaps back and out the other side lol. Fun stuff there.

Gives new meaning to the term Yo-Yo

I remember an old joke:

"Nothing is worse than devil"

"Nothing is greater then God"

conclusion: Devil must be greater than God.