Ok. I included it as part of a question regarding a state of consciousness that allows you to observe the mind without participating in the thought. If you look at the wiki article it talks about it. I think I'd rather discuss consciousness and would love to hear what you have to say about it. Do you have any thoughts on it? Maybe you want to share your connection to the "third eye" concept a little?
Ok. I included it as part of a question regarding a state of consciousness that allows you to observe the mind without participating in the thought. If you look at the wiki article it talks about it. I think I'd rather discuss consciousness and would love to hear what you have to say about it. Do you have any thoughts on it? Maybe you want to share your connection to the "third eye" concept a little?
There are two lines of thought here. One seems to pertain to a condition within physical consciousness correct? And there is the non-physical consciousness which is more of a conceptual debate. My question is, "are they separate?" A conscious person versus a person in a coma for example may have similar awarenesses. Or not. An insect certainly has consciousness. If the term is held to the area of spiritualism or even psychology we have a different and more conceptual topic. Humans are able to observe their own consciousness as in eastern thought where through meditation, you become the observer of your mind. The third eye if you will. In Jung's work there is the collective unconscious, a realm that connects all consciousness and where we can tap into a well of all knowledge and inspiration. If we talk about after death consciousness (as in Mick's comment) then we clearly have an unconscious mind. So then what might be conscious within the mind that might not need a body? Does consciousness remain. Possibly. I know most religions love to think so. What is that? A soul? How about when we meditate and we observe the mind? Is that true consciousness, and the same that may live on? Maybe the terms "mind" and "brain" should be separated more than just semantically? I usually finish comments with a lot of question marks on topics like this. I think it is appropriate when no one will definitively know the answers.
There are two lines of thought here. One seems to pertain to a condition within physical consciousness correct? And there is the non-physical consciousness which is more of a conceptual debate. My question is, "are they separate?" A conscious person versus a person in a coma for example may have similar awarenesses. Or not. An insect certainly has consciousness. If the term is held to the area of spiritualism or even psychology we have a different and more conceptual topic. Humans are able to observe their own consciousness as in eastern thought where through meditation, you become the observer of your mind. The third eye if you will. In Jung's work there is the collective unconscious, a realm that connects all consciousness and where we can tap into a well of all knowledge and inspiration. If we talk about after death consciousness (as in Mick's comment) then we clearly have an unconscious mind. So then what might be conscious within the mind that might not need a body? Does consciousness remain. Possibly. I know most religions love to think so. What is that? A soul? How about when we meditate and we observe the mind? Is that true consciousness, and the same that may live on? Maybe the terms "mind" and "brain" should be separated more than just semantically? I usually finish comments with a lot of question marks on topics like this. I think it is appropriate when no one will definitively know the answers.
Ultimately, consciousness is not separate, but its awareness is in and of differentiated forms of life that makes the ability of it to be aware and alive and individualized as thought or the state of life. Perhaps the legend of the third eye is connected? I started another discussion to hear the 'third eye' legends.
Ultimately, consciousness is not separate, but its awareness is in and of differentiated forms of life that makes the ability of it to be aware and alive and individualized as thought or the state of life. Perhaps the legend of the third eye is connected? I started another discussion to hear the 'third eye' legends.
Posted: Jul 7, 08 10:53pm
Ok. I included it as part of a question regarding a state of consciousness that allows you to observe the mind without participating in the thought. If you look at the wiki article it talks about it. I think I'd rather discuss consciousness and would love to hear what you have to say about it. Do you have any thoughts on it? Maybe you want to share your connection to the "third eye" concept a little?
Posted: Jul 8, 08 5:58am
There are two lines of thought here. One seems to pertain to a condition within physical consciousness correct? And there is the non-physical consciousness which is more of a conceptual debate. My question is, "are they separate?" A conscious person versus a person in a coma for example may have similar awarenesses. Or not. An insect certainly has consciousness. If the term is held to the area of spiritualism or even psychology we have a different and more conceptual topic. Humans are able to observe their own consciousness as in eastern thought where through meditation, you become the observer of your mind. The third eye if you will. In Jung's work there is the collective unconscious, a realm that connects all consciousness and where we can tap into a well of all knowledge and inspiration. If we talk about after death consciousness (as in Mick's comment) then we clearly have an unconscious mind. So then what might be conscious within the mind that might not need a body? Does consciousness remain. Possibly. I know most religions love to think so. What is that? A soul? How about when we meditate and we observe the mind? Is that true consciousness, and the same that may live on? Maybe the terms "mind" and "brain" should be separated more than just semantically? I usually finish comments with a lot of question marks on topics like this. I think it is appropriate when no one will definitively know the answers.
Ultimately, consciousness is not separate, but its awareness is in and of differentiated forms of life that makes the ability of it to be aware and alive and individualized as thought or the state of life. Perhaps the legend of the third eye is connected? I started another discussion to hear the 'third eye' legends.