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Mary...Re: your post on 7/4...religions being divisive. How does one approach this? The first thing that comes to mind is to ask if there is such a thing as a Jewish, Muslim, Christian, Buddist, or Hindu consciousness. Or is consciousness universal? We are not asking what is consciousness, that debate it seems is never ending. We also have this thing called mind...it is not a Jewish mind or muslim mind...it is just mind. But somehow it becomes a Jewish mind or a christian mind. Because it does not early on understand it's nature or structure it is from it's early years, conditioned as to what it is. Parents, priests, Rabbi's, Imams shape this mind that has no shape into a label. The label is always connected to the past. Though you exist in the present you are taught that you are connected to the past...and each label has it's own past to define it. So at some point the mind gives in and says "I am that", I am that past, this or that mans words or ideas...So a mind that was basically a vast and embracing thing covering all of humanity now encloses itself and separates because it is convinced that it is something different. It causes a dvision in humanity. This process, this division, will always bring conflict...that is the nature of division...my ideas opposed to your ideas, my book opposed to your book...I think if one approaches this problem in this manner one can perhaps see that the whole process is a conditioning...can one see how one is conditioned? I think once you see and fully understand the process, then you are free of it...for the mind will no longer buy into something it sees is false. I hope this answers the question Mary and hope I put it in a manner that people will at least think about.

warmly,

Kenny

I'm not sure "K" had a philosophy. He did however actually state a goal once and that was to make humanity free. That freedom he talks about is immense...it is disconnected from all authority...all...the books the prophets, the holy men, the shrinks, the philosophers...for at that point the mind is free to explore...free from all opinions and beliefs...yes his focus was on understanding the self...but he took it even deeper...one thing he mentions is the center, the "Me"...what is the me that is going to do the understanding? He mentions in one of his talks that no matter what it tries to do, a confused mind can only create more confusion. One of the things that I find really fascinating about him is that he feels love and intelligence are the same thing...But here he talks of an intelligence that is not the man on TV answering questions on Jeopardy, nor of the scientists using their talents to create a new bomb. Hope we can get more people to read what this incredible human being had to say...even better would be more of us (including myself) having a better understanding of what he is truly talking about...I remember reading somewhere that he felt David Bohm (physicist from "the ending of time") book was the only one who truly understood what he was getting at...for me, it just blows me away when I do start to "smell the perfume" of what he's getting at...thanks for coming on board.

warmly,

Kenny