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2008-09-01 14:19:42.0
How necessary is the bible to have a relationship with God? And if you devoted yourself to any other book...
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Posted: Sep 4, 08 8:05pm
A relationship with God is pretty much a life that acknowledges the innate perfection of the imperfect universe.
... I do not have to ask the Christians that I know, I spent enough time being one to know what is required.
... why would you want to do that if you are not familiar with the bible?
Based on your definition of "relationship with God", my answer would be no, the bible is not necessary to have one.
I'm not a Christian, so I have to ask. But even if I were a Christian, I would still ask because I wouldn't assume that my requirement/view/opinion/definition was the same as everyone else. In other words, I'm sure you know what it means for *you* to be a Christian, but you can't define someone else's Christianity for them.
Also, I agree that many Christians can't translate their "acceptance" of JC as their Lord and Savior into any practical everyday ways of living. But is that really necessary?
Why would someone want to accept JC as their Lord and Saviour if they're not familiar with the bible? Well, I can imagine any number of reasons why someone might want to do that. The first that comes to mind is that they have witnessed the good works of a particular Christian missionary and are so moved that they want to be a Christian too.
Posted: Sep 4, 08 8:07pm
Jesus was not killed, He willingly gave His life for the atonement of my sins. He could have stopped His death on the cross, but He stayed focused on His purpose for being here. Jesus taught me the greatest lesson about forgiveness, when he was nailed on the cross, and He said "Father forgive them, for they know not what they do." Jesus taught me that people will lie on you, and make false accusations against you. Also that satan is a liar, and the father of lies, and is like a roaring lion, seeking who he can devour. Jesus taught me that the Christian must pray, to God, and have a personal relationship with Him. If you need more proof from me about how Jesus has taught me to live as a Christian, I will be happy to provide it.
Posted: Sep 4, 08 11:13pm
Wow, some good post here on this topic and we could all go on and on to the end on time with this one. For me excepting Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior saved my life. I read my Bible everyday. Some days I understand it and some days I don't that's why I keep on reading it to get a better understanding. My whole thing is FAITH. Gotta have FAITH Because we don't know what the real is. But for me the real is Jesus died on the cross for all of our sins and that's why we are here today. He is the son on GOD ALMIGHTY. That's my belief and I am sticking to it... I don't argue or get into any type of debates about the Bible or what I believe. I have my faith, I pray in the name of Jesus and I study my Bible. My faith have gotten me this far and I believe it's going to take to me further in life. Who's to say who is right or wrong when it comes to a person's belief. I don't judge because I am not the judge. We will be judged and then we will know in the end what's the REAL. But for me and my house, WE WILL SERVE THE LORD
Posted: Sep 5, 08 7:45am
Hmmmm, the first two posts are pretty simple and strait forward with "Yes". The last three, the answer looks like, "Yes, but not really,"
lol, I like Ann1959 answer the best!
Posted: Sep 5, 08 11:57am
Amen, Sista Ann!
Posted: Sep 5, 08 12:41pm
Jesus never had a bible. (Actually, because he was Jewish, he had the Torah and other Hebrew teachings.)
Jesus never carried a bible because "HE was the living Word of GOD".
Jesus is bible, why would he need to carry one???????
1. In the beginning was the Word (John 1:1)
2. The Word was with God (John 1:1)
3. The Word was God (John 1:1)
4. The Word was made flesh (John 1:14)
5. The disciples saw Him who is the Word of life (1John 1:1-2)
6. He is three in one with the Father and the Holy Ghost (1John 5:7)
7. He returns to earth in power as the Word of God (Revelation 19:13)
Posted: Sep 5, 08 9:17pm
Jesus never carried a bible because "HE was the living Word of GOD"
According to what?
Jesus is bible, why would he need to carry one???????
He did not and would not. Instead he said that the the law is made for man, not man for the law.
1. In the beginning was the Word (John 1:1)
The book of John, not having a second witness and be considered not to be the words of Jesus by biblical scholars is out of consideration. But thanks for calling.
2. The Word was with God (John 1:1) excluded.
3. The Word was God (John 1:1)excluded.
4. The Word was made flesh (John 1:14) excluded
5. The disciples saw Him who is the Word of life (1John 1:1-2)
6. He is three in one with the Father and the Holy Ghost (1John 5:7) still excluded
7. He returns to earth in power as the Word of God (Revelation 19:13) Hallucinated. Sorry but thanks for trying.
It would be nice if that were not simply believed or consdiered, but it is unsubstatntiated. I know for you Christians, faith trumps substance, but not for me.. You can believe whatever you want to, but that does not make it right.