Thanks Arlene...I appreciate your kind words. My brother is working on a Masters Degree in Theology and he and I have some VERY in-depth conversations about Christian philosophy and theology, and I have studied quite extensively on Christian apologetics (being able to defend what you believe) and related fields. To be a good Christian apologist means you are familiar not only with the foundations of your own beliefs but also must have an understanding of other world views so you can defend Christianity to doubters, skeptics, and atheists. One of the best books I've read on apologetics is by Norm Geisler called "I Don't Have Enough Faith to be an Atheist." Dr. Geisler provides much good information on how to defend what you believe to others.
I have also written (in my book) about being careful when drawing conclusions from Scripture. The conclusion has to be related to the premise in Scripture; otherwise, we run the danger of adding our own interpretation that may be based on an erroneous understanding of that passage in Scripture or based on just our emotional reaction to it. It has to pass the muster of exegetical soundness (exegesis = the science and art of biblical interpretation).
Anyway, I hope to post some challenging discussion points soon on this board.
Kindly,
Donn
Thanks Arlene...I appreciate your kind words. My brother is working on a Masters Degree in Theology and he and I have some VERY in-depth conversations about Christian philosophy and theology, and I have studied quite extensively on Christian apologetics (being able to defend what you believe) and related fields. To be a good Christian apologist means you are familiar not only with the foundations of your own beliefs but also must have an understanding of other world views so you can defend Christianity to doubters, skeptics, and atheists. One of the best books I've read on apologetics is by Norm Geisler called "I Don't Have Enough Faith to be an Atheist." Dr. Geisler provides much good information on how to defend what you believe to others.
I have also written (in my book) about being careful when drawing conclusions from Scripture. The conclusion has to be related to the premise in Scripture; otherwise, we run the danger of adding our own interpretation that may be based on an erroneous understanding of that passage in Scripture or based on just our emotional reaction to it. It has to pass the muster of exegetical soundness (exegesis = the science and art of biblical interpretation).
Anyway, I hope to post some challenging discussion points soon on this board.
Kindly,
Donn
What are your thoughts/experiences about crying in church? I sometimes cry during a church service and feel embarrassed about it. I try to think of my emotion as being positive, but it is hard for me.
What are your thoughts/experiences about crying in church? I sometimes cry during a church service and feel embarrassed about it. I try to think of my emotion as being positive, but it is hard for me.
Of all the places to cry, it seems to me that church should be the safest place. I often cry in church for different reasons. I know it's an emotion caused by the teachings at the moment. sometimes it's for someone else sometimes I'm feeling convicted. Sometimes it's a deep abiding love for my savior that moves me to tears. I never feel embarrassed about it anymore.
Of all the places to cry, it seems to me that church should be the safest place. I often cry in church for different reasons. I know it's an emotion caused by the teachings at the moment. sometimes it's for someone else sometimes I'm feeling convicted. Sometimes it's a deep abiding love for my savior that moves me to tears. I never feel embarrassed about it anymore.
hehe...this is exactly why I like the fact that they keep the lights low in our church. I'm just kidding.
I don't have a problem showing my emotions. I think God gave me emotions and if I am moved by a song or something the pastor said, it's not a bad thing. Sure emotions can be a dangerous thing, if we act rashly because of emotion it can lead to some problems, but to be moved in church, that's normal and natural.
Praise God for the emotions, they come from Him.
hehe...this is exactly why I like the fact that they keep the lights low in our church. I'm just kidding.
I don't have a problem showing my emotions. I think God gave me emotions and if I am moved by a song or something the pastor said, it's not a bad thing. Sure emotions can be a dangerous thing, if we act rashly because of emotion it can lead to some problems, but to be moved in church, that's normal and natural.
Praise God for the emotions, they come from Him.
Oh, yes, dear Leavnsoon I remember our Pastor Bill who was discussing a young girl who was pregnant and had come to live with one of the members of the church because her family had disowned her and her boyfriend, when she was in hospital basically dumped her.
Then Shannon (that was her name) got up and gave her testimony. There was NOT a dry eye in the congregation. Our great Scottish friend, Isa, who is now 98 years old, said "This is terrrrrrible furrr the makeup!"
Shannon had become a member of the choir while she was pregnant and the choir members just took her under their wing. I am not too sure that she would have ever become a Christian if nobody had supported her - except that I accept the sovereignty of God who does as He will.
She is a wonderful girl. She is a great Christian - went back to school and got an education and came back to us and I hardly recognized her from the little down-trodden soul that appeared at choir.
To God be the ALL the Glory for the things he has done!
Lois
Oh, yes, dear Leavnsoon I remember our Pastor Bill who was discussing a young girl who was pregnant and had come to live with one of the members of the church because her family had disowned her and her boyfriend, when she was in hospital basically dumped her.
Then Shannon (that was her name) got up and gave her testimony. There was NOT a dry eye in the congregation. Our great Scottish friend, Isa, who is now 98 years old, said "This is terrrrrrible furrr the makeup!"
Shannon had become a member of the choir while she was pregnant and the choir members just took her under their wing. I am not too sure that she would have ever become a Christian if nobody had supported her - except that I accept the sovereignty of God who does as He will.
She is a wonderful girl. She is a great Christian - went back to school and got an education and came back to us and I hardly recognized her from the little down-trodden soul that appeared at choir.
To God be the ALL the Glory for the things he has done!
Lois
The shortest verse in the bible is also
the deepest and most profound. "JESUS WEPT"
The GOD of the universe comes down to weep
with us. That's what real relationships are
like. He created every emotion within us...
Tears, I believe ARE "LIQUID LOVE".
Posted: Oct 10, 08 8:03am
Thanks Arlene...I appreciate your kind words. My brother is working on a Masters Degree in Theology and he and I have some VERY in-depth conversations about Christian philosophy and theology, and I have studied quite extensively on Christian apologetics (being able to defend what you believe) and related fields. To be a good Christian apologist means you are familiar not only with the foundations of your own beliefs but also must have an understanding of other world views so you can defend Christianity to doubters, skeptics, and atheists. One of the best books I've read on apologetics is by Norm Geisler called "I Don't Have Enough Faith to be an Atheist." Dr. Geisler provides much good information on how to defend what you believe to others.
I have also written (in my book) about being careful when drawing conclusions from Scripture. The conclusion has to be related to the premise in Scripture; otherwise, we run the danger of adding our own interpretation that may be based on an erroneous understanding of that passage in Scripture or based on just our emotional reaction to it. It has to pass the muster of exegetical soundness (exegesis = the science and art of biblical interpretation).
Anyway, I hope to post some challenging discussion points soon on this board.
Kindly,
Donn
Posted: Oct 10, 08 3:30pm
What are your thoughts/experiences about crying in church? I sometimes cry during a church service and feel embarrassed about it. I try to think of my emotion as being positive, but it is hard for me.
Of all the places to cry, it seems to me that church should be the safest place. I often cry in church for different reasons. I know it's an emotion caused by the teachings at the moment. sometimes it's for someone else sometimes I'm feeling convicted. Sometimes it's a deep abiding love for my savior that moves me to tears. I never feel embarrassed about it anymore.
Posted: Oct 11, 08 11:06pm
hehe...this is exactly why I like the fact that they keep the lights low in our church. I'm just kidding.
I don't have a problem showing my emotions. I think God gave me emotions and if I am moved by a song or something the pastor said, it's not a bad thing. Sure emotions can be a dangerous thing, if we act rashly because of emotion it can lead to some problems, but to be moved in church, that's normal and natural.
Praise God for the emotions, they come from Him.
DITTO!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Oct 11, 08 11:19pm
DITTO!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, yes, dear Leavnsoon I remember our Pastor Bill who was discussing a young girl who was pregnant and had come to live with one of the members of the church because her family had disowned her and her boyfriend, when she was in hospital basically dumped her.
Then Shannon (that was her name) got up and gave her testimony. There was NOT a dry eye in the congregation. Our great Scottish friend, Isa, who is now 98 years old, said "This is terrrrrrible furrr the makeup!"
Shannon had become a member of the choir while she was pregnant and the choir members just took her under their wing. I am not too sure that she would have ever become a Christian if nobody had supported her - except that I accept the sovereignty of God who does as He will.
She is a wonderful girl. She is a great Christian - went back to school and got an education and came back to us and I hardly recognized her from the little down-trodden soul that appeared at choir.
To God be the ALL the Glory for the things he has done!
Lois
Posted: Oct 13, 08 9:20am
The shortest verse in the bible is also
the deepest and most profound. "JESUS WEPT"
The GOD of the universe comes down to weep
with us. That's what real relationships are
like. He created every emotion within us...
Tears, I believe ARE "LIQUID LOVE".