The score from the hearing - Loudoun Rail Now - 82 - Tax Pig 21 (plus 5 piglets)
Take a look at the photos and video from the June 4, 2012 meeting. Orchestrated support, complete with with green T-shirts and coordinated signs, versus the busy public that is trying to earn enough to pay some of the highest taxes on the US East Coast. And this rail project is way too expensive.
$83 million for our Metro stations, when a Metro station in Fairfield Connecticut cost $39.1 million, plus $4.6 million for road adjustments, in December 2011. Why are our Metro rail stations so expensive?
$26,394 per space for parking garages, when nearby Herndon Virginia says $15,000 per space - or less - for its planned Downtown Development parking garage. $15,000 to $16,000 per space seems to be the actual cost in this area. Why are the Silver Line parking garages listed at $26,394 per space?
$237 million per mile (not including items that are not in the comparable rail job), compared to $116 million to $136 million per mile, adjusted for inflation, for the 1997 Franconia Springfield Metro extension. Why is our Silver Line so expensive?
There is about a Billion and a half dollars of overcharge in this rail project. But local government and news media that are complicit with this ripoff, and a public that doesn't know, and doesn't check, are poised to run up an unnecessary debt that they will pay, and their children and grandchildren will pay, for generations.
Thank you Bob. Ordinary people can't coordinate or come together to form groups. Matching T-shirts have never been made by every day people. They're way too unintelligent for that. Are you just hoping that people who are silly enough to listen to your logic can be easily persuaded?
Also doesn't this article say that there are now "No Metro Tax" bumper stickers? Doesn't this invalidate your argument that the people who are against the Metro are too busy trying to pay taxes to come together? I think it's much more likely that you are thinking up excuses for why the polls don't agree with you. Over 80% of Loudoun County supports the rail.
Busy public like yourself Bob who seems to have endless hours to post anti-rail comments on every outlet possible? Since when is "Orchestrated support, complete with with green T-shirts and coordinated signs" a bad thing? A group is organized and you imply it is because they are not busy?
Seems like a case of sour grapes to me.
SUMMARY ARTICLE ON WHY LOUDOUN COUNTY SHOULD NOT FINANCE ANY PART OF THE METRORAIL EXTENSION
Randal O’Toole and Gabriel Roth
Advocates of spending $2.8 billion extending Metrorail beyond Dulles Airport argue that the project will improve travel in the Loudoun County area and that this increased mobility will stimulate economic development and raise land values. Neither of these is likely to be true.
Rail transit is slow, partly because every train must stop at every station. For far less money, the Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority (WMATA or Metro) could provide express bus services that are much faster. For example, the train from Wiehle Avenue to the Pentagon is expected to take 57 minutes, while an express bus could do the trip in less than 30 minutes.
Much of the cost of the extension would be paid by tripling tolls on the Dulles Toll Road. This will reduce travel on the Dulles Toll Road by 25 million trips a year, some five million of them by Loudoun residents. That’s more than the number of trips the rail line is expected to produce out of the county, so the line will actually reduce Loudoun County mobility.
Extending Metrorail into Loudoun County would also force the county to join the interstate compact that requires all counties served by Metrorail to share in its annual losses. This obligation will impose a substantial burden on county taxpayers.
The claim that the rail extension will boost the county’s economic development and property values is also dubious. This claim is based on the visible changes that can often take place next to rail stations. What is less visible is why those changes take place and what they would mean for the county as a whole.
Even to the extent that rail transit does have an effect on economic development, this effect is, at best, a zero-sum game. In other words, rail transit will not lead the county to grow faster; it will just shuffle that growth around. An analysis of the effect of rail transit on urban growth prepared by planners Robert Cervero, of the University of California, and Samuel Seskin, of Parsons Brinckerhoff, concluded that “urban rail transit investments rarely ‘create’ new growth.” Instead, they merely “redistribute growth that would have taken place without the investment.”
The biggest beneficiaries of that reshuffling of growth, Cervero and Seskin added, were downtown areas. Rather than lead to growth in Loudoun County, it is possible that the rail line will actually draw growth away from Loudoun County to Tysons Corner or downtown Washington.
In sum, extending Metrorail to Loudoun County could be disastrous for both mobility and economic growth. At the very least, Loudoun County should not support the rail line unless two conditions are met. First, no financing for the rail line should come from increased tolls on the Dulles Toll Road and second, the county’s liability to support WMATA’s financial losses should be limited.
Ohhhhh noooo not a giant pig. Run everybody!!!!!!!!!!! I think the pig is cute, however this article gives a false impression that a lot of people are behind opting out of the Metro. The fact is over 80 percent of people support the Metro to Loudoun. I support it and most everyone I know does too.
Yes to Metro!!!
Shoot.. my Moms group can buy tshirts at the craft store and iron on transfer paper to print out and and show up anywhere to show support.. it by no means, means that we arent busy.. but making tshirts takes like 10 minutes honestly.
We want the rail!
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