The Rare Truth About Penis Size:How to Make The Most of What You've Got, And How Best To Please Women With It
MichaelCastlemanPosted: Nov 13, 06 7:11pm "Men are obsessed with penis size," says Palo Alto, California, sex therapist Marty Klein, Ph.D, "During more than 20 years as a therapist, male clients have raised the issue so many times, I've lost count." No wonder that expensive�and useless�offers for extra inches fill email inboxes. Some years ago, a men's magazine surveyed 1,000 men about their size. Almost every respondent said he was too small and wished he were larger. Many men are utterly convinced that it takes a large penis to please a woman. Some women prefer men with a particular penis size (large or small), just as some men have preferences about women's breasts. But there isn't much connection to a man's size and the sexual pleasure his lover can experience. "It's sad," Klein explains, "how few men understand this. Any size penis can bring great pleasure to the man it's attached to. As for women's pleasure, it usually doesn't have all that much to do with the man's penis or how he uses it. Women's pleasure usually has more to do with how the man uses his hands and tongue." The Vast Majority: AverageHow many guys are noticeably smaller than average? "At most, 5 percent," says Baltimore urologist James Smolev, M.D., who has seen thousands of penises up close during more than 30 years of practice. How many are noticeably larger? "Maybe 10 percent," Dr. Smolev says. And how many are truly huge? "Very, very few. The vast majority of men are average, or a little bigger or smaller. In my entire career, I recall only a few guys I'd call really enormous." Why Most Men Think They're Too SmallWhere do average-size men get the idea they're too small? "From pornography," explains Richard Pacheco, a male porn star of the 1970s, now retired. "The men in porn are a self-selecting group. Only the guys with the biggest penises audition, and of those, the directors select the largest." The only penises heterosexual men get to see really up close�other than their own-�are the ones in x-rated media. They really are significantly larger than the vast majority of men. Porn penises are the standard against which men judge themselves, and that standard is seriously skewed toward Goliaths. As a result, all the Davids of the world are justified in believing that they're "small." In addition, men look down on their own penises from above, which makes them look even smaller, Pacheco explains. But they view porn penises from other angles: "So many of the penis shots are photographed up from underneath. That makes any penis look big." Size: For the RecordAccording to urology textbooks, the average flaccid penis measures 3 to 4 inches in length, but this is a rather "soft" figure, as it were, because it depends on several factors. Most men notice that the size and hang of their penises vary. Sometimes they look shriveled, other times larger and better hung. More on this later. Flaccid size also depends on how much you stretch your organ while measuring it (most men pull hard), and where you measure from�medical sources measure from the base of the top of the penis where it attaches to the lower abdomen. As for the erections, they typically measure from 5 to 7 inches. Flaccid size has nothing to do with erection size, says Martin J. Resnick, professor of urology at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland. It's quite possible to have a flaccid penis on the small side, but a 7-inch erection. In general, the smaller the flaccid penis, the more length and girth it gains in erection. Racial Differences?In male folklore, a great deal is made of racial differences in penis size. Black men are reputed to be larger than whites, and Asian men are supposedly smaller. The experts consulted for this report generally concurred with these stereotypes, but insisted that racial characteristics take a back seat to individual differences. "I've seen penises bigger and smaller than average in men of every race," says New York City sex educator Betty Dodson, Ph.D. Natural Ways to Make the Most of What You've GotWhether flaccid or erect, penis size depends on the amount of blood that enters the organ through the pudendal arteries, and the amount contained in the penis' central corpus cavernosa, the spongy tissues that fill with extra blood during erection. Many things can affect penile blood supply: Eat a Low-Fat DietNo doubt you're familiar with exhortations to eat a low-fat diet to prevent heart disease. Maybe more men would heed this advice if the American Heart Association added that a low-fat diet also helps penis size. A diet high in fat, particularly animal (saturated) fat, raises cholesterol, which narrows the arteries, including the ones that carry blood into the penis. As these arteries narrow, less blood gets in there, and the penis shrinks. Quit SmokingIf you need another reason to quit, smoking accelerates arterial narrowing, which is why smokers are at high risk for heart disease. Cigarettes hit men below the belt as well, limiting blood flow into the penis. Embrace a Relaxation RegimenThe pudendal arteries are surrounded by smooth muscle tissue. When men feel anxious, explains Bloomfield Hills, Michigan sex therapist Dennis Sugrue, Ph.D., a past president of the American Association of Sex Educators, Counselors, and Therapists (AASECT), this muscle tissue constricts, limiting blood flow into the penis. But as men relax, this muscle tissue also relaxes, allowing increased inflow. (Viagra and other erection drugs work by relaxing this muscle tissue.) In addition, anxiety triggers the "fight or flight" response. This reflex sends blood away from the central body, including the penis, and out toward the limbs for escape or self-defense. But as men relax, more blood becomes available to the penis. "When men become distressed about their size," Klein says, "the anxiety may contribute to penis shrinkage. If you want to be all you can be, relax, and stop worrying about it." Warm Penis, Larger PenisYou've probably noticed that in chilly locker rooms, your penis seems to shrink and your scrotum hugs your body tightly. But after a hot shower, your penis looks larger and your scrotum hangs much lower. Warmth is relaxing, Resnick explains, which increases blood flow into the penis and encourages the scrotum to relax and hang lower. Cultivate a Comfortable, Committed RelationshipSure, flings can be fun and new relationships are exciting. But they also involve intimacy with women you don't know very well, if at all. That can produce anxiety. A familiar lover may not be as exciting as a new one, but familiarity allows you and your penis to relax, which helps your organ look its largest. In addition to increasing blood flow into the penis, here are two other size-enhancing suggestions: Lose Weight"When a man has a big gut," Sugrue explains, "excess fat tissue encroaches on the base of his penis, which makes it look smaller. Lose the abdominal fat pad, and you look larger." Exercise RegularlyWorking out is fundamental to weight control. But exercising the penis itelf doesn't help. The sex media sometimes refer to the penis as the "love muscle," which implies that like the biceps, certain exercises can buff it up. "The penis contains muscle tissue," Klein explains, "but there are different kinds of muscle. The penis contains smooth muscle tissue. That's not the kind that gets bigger with exercise." Try a Pubic Haircut"When less of the penis is obscured by hair," Sugrue explains. "it looks a little larger." Jelqing?Jelqing is supposedly an ancient Middle Eastern penis-enlargement technique. But none of the standard works on the history of sex mention it. Jelqing involves making an "OK" sign with the thumb and index finger around the semi-erect penis, and then pulling the organ 200 to 500 strokes a day using a rhythmic milking motion. On some Internet sites, men make extravagant claims of extra inches. But jelqing is very similar to the way many men masturbate. Has masturbation boosted your size? Forget jelqing. It does not work. C-RingsIf you enjoy playing with sex toys, two devices may temporarily boost your erection size�C-rings (also known as cock rings) and vacuum constricting devices, generally known as penis pumps. C-rings are rubber or leather donut-shaped devices that tightly encircle the erect penis. (Some come with straps that also encircle the scrotum.) Typically used to help maintain erection, they may also provide a small, temporary size boost. But don't expect miracles. Some men think of the penis as a balloon, filled with blood when erect, and empty when flaccid. This is incorrect. Blood circulates in and out of the penis all the time, when it's flaccid and erect. The arteries that carry blood into the penis run through the center of the organ, so during erection, as blood fills the penis' spongy erectile tissues, a C-ring doesn't keep blood out. However, one of the two veins that carry blood out of the penis, the superficial dorsal vein, runs close to the organ's outer skin (on top). As the penis expands in erection, both the superficial and deep penile veins naturally get somewhat compressed, which restricts blood outflow and contributes to blood pooling and erection. A C-ring restricts outflow a bit more by compressing this superficial vein. The net effect is somewhat greater blood build-up in the penis, and a slightly larger, firmer erection. Just bear in mind that any effect is modest. There are two kinds of C-rings, adjustable and not. If you're at all concerned about damaging your penis�bruising is possible from a ring that's too tight�use an adjustable ring. "Some guys swear by C-rings," Dodson observes. "Others say they do little, if anything." If you'd like to try a C-ring, they're available at sex shops and through sex toy catalogs. Penis PumpsPenis pumps create a partial vacuum that draws blood into the organ, resulting in temporary size enhancement. They were invented decades before erection medication became available, not as sex toys, but as therapeutic devices designed to produce temporary erections in men who otherwise couldn't raise them. Once a pump has raised an erection, users roll on a constriction band similar to a C-ring to help maintain turgidity. "For temporary erection," Smolev explains, "vacuum devices are reliable, safe, and effective, and usually produce good results." Even if your penis has no trouble becoming erect, pumps can be used for temporary size enhancement. Models differ, but all include a plastic tube that fits over the penis, fitted with a pump operated by a hand bulb. You squeeze the bulb, which evacuates the air from the plastic tube, drawing blood into the penis. Just remember, the effect is temporary. It also depends on the tightness of the seal created where the tube meets the base of the penis. Sex toy pumps may not create a tight seal. Prescription pumps available through urologists work better. Surgical Enhancement: Don'tYou might see the ad in the Sports Section of you newspaper: "Give Yourself a Major Confidence Boost: Penis Lengthening and Girth Enlargement" with a urologist's contact information. Surgical enlargement might boost your self-esteem. Then again, it might also destroy it. Two surgical approaches are available. The more popular is penis lengthening. It's based on the fact that you have more penis than what hangs between your legs. The penis also extends into the lower abdomen. The internal penis is held in there by the penile suspensatory ligament. Cut this ligament, and much of the internal penis emerges from the lower abdomen, adding about an inch to the external penis' length. But cutting this ligament also has a significant downside. The suspensatory ligament is what makes erections stand up. A surgically lengthened penis still becomes firm during erection, but it no longer salutes. Instead, it hangs down between your legs, requiring you or your lover to direct it by hand into erotic openings. The other surgical option is girth enhancement. This is a two-step procedure involving fat removal (liposuction) from the buttocks, then re-injection of that fat under the penile skin. The before and after pictures offered by urologists who perform this procedure show pencils transformed into bratwurst. But again, there are downsides. The fat injections may not "take," meaning you've wasted your money. In addition, they may take unevenly, producing a lumpy, mutant-looking organ. The Web sites of urologists who perform penile enlargement surgery gush with testimonials. But Resnick said the procedures are "not recommended. Infection and deformity are possible." Smolev was even more emphatic: "Any surgery to lengthen or thicken the penis should be outlawed." And the Web site of a prominent penis-enlargement surgeon warns that many urologists who perform penis enlargement "lack the skills needed to produce good results.....A large part of [this doctor's] practice involves repairing the numerous men damaged by [other] surgeons." If you're interested in surgery, surgeons typically charge about $5,000 for lengthening and $6,000 for girth enhancement, plus airfare, hotel, and food for several days. Lengthening comes first, then six to 12 months later, girth enhancement. Figure up to $15,000 for the full monty�all out of pocket. Insurers don't pay for penis enlargement. "You couldn't pay me to have my penis surgically altered," Klein says. "The horror stories I've heard are horrendous." There is, however, one type of minor surgery that's quick and safe and can make the penis look larger, Smolev explains: "Liposuction of the suprapubic area." That's the fat pad in the lower abdomen above the penis. "If you eliminate suprapubic fat, the penis looks bigger." The Downside of a Big OneMost men want larger penises, but ironically, the tiny group with phone polls in their jeans often wish they were smaller. "This may come as a shock to men," says Southern California sex therapist Patti Britton, Ph.D., past president of the Foundation for the Scientific Study of Sexuality, "but many women are afraid of really big penises. A large penis can feel uncomfortable during intercourse and even hurt the woman." "Every now and then," Dodson recalls, "I've talked with men who are really huge. I've shown women photographs of their penises. The women would ooh and ahh, but almost all said, 'No way I'd ever want that thing in me.' To a man, the huge men I've interviewed have said that having a huge penis brought them very little joy. It was more of a burden." "Women are right," Klein says. "Men are too preoccupied with their penises. Some women may be into size, but I've counseled thousands of couples, and I can't recall any women ever raising it as an issue. Men hung up on penis size don't understand good sex. A penis�any size penis�can give the man it's attached to great pleasure. But the best way to impress women in bed is to find creative ways to give them pleasure without using your penis. Only 25 percent of women are consistently orgasmic during vaginal intercourse. Most women need direct clitoral stimulation with a hand, a toy, or a tongue." "There's nothing worse," says Dodson, "than a big penis on a guy who thinks size is everything. Sex with a guy like that is a nightmare. He plunges in before the woman is ready. The sex often hurts. Personally, I'd rather make love with a guy on the small side who knows how to use his tongue on my clitoris than a guy with a huge penis who thinks stuffing that turkey inside me is all there is to sex." Using It Well�No Matter What Your SizeIn an old blues song, a woman sings: "It ain't the meat, it's the motion/ That makes your momma wanna rock./ It ain't the meat, it's the motion./ It's the movement that gives it the sock." Dodson prefers a tongue on her clitoris to a penis in her vagina. But she also appreciates the closeness and intimacy of vaginal intercourse. She just wishes men were gentler, more patient, and developed a better sense of slow, sensual rhythm. Here are her suggestions for skillful use of what's between your legs: * Don't plunge in the moment a woman spreads her legs. Go slow. Give her time to warm up to intercourse. "It takes a good 20 minutes of fooling around for my vagina to relax enough to accept an erection comfortably." * Use a commercial sexual lubricant. "A good lover always uses lube. Spread some on the penis and around the vaginal opening. Lube makes intercourse so much more comfortable." * Enter slowly. "Most men push in too quickly. I've always preferred to be on top. That way I have more control of the speed and depth of insertion. In my experience, most women share that preference." * Don't push in deep right away. "The most erotically sensitive part of the vagina is the lips. Use the head of your penis to tease her lips. Then run it up her vulva to her clitoris. And even after you've gone deep, pull out and tease her lips more." * Cultivate a rhythm. "Don't pump in and out furiously like the men in pornography. Develop a slow, sensual rhythm. Talk about the kind of rhythm the woman likes. Some like in and out, but many prefer a slow grind around in circles, or a combination of in-out and circular movement." * It ain't the meat, it's the clitoris. "I wish men would get over their preoccupation with penis size," Dodson says. "If you want to please a woman, focus on her clitoris. Fondle it gently, and especially lick it. That's much more enjoyable than feeling impaled on any size erection." Positions to Play WithBut with all due respect to the clitoris, many women enjoy the feeling of having a penis deeply filling their vaginas. "Some women love deep penetration because it makes them feel closer to the man," Britton says, "with a more intimate connection to him. And men like it because it makes them feel larger." The good news is that deep penetration depends less on penis size than on sexual position. The standard man-on-top (missionary) position doesn't allow particularly deep penetration, Britton explains, but a few variations do. With a pillow under the woman's hips to raise her a bit, she bends her knees over her chest, then the man can kneel between her legs and enter her. Or he can hold her legs over her head. The woman-on-top position allows the woman maximum freedom of movement. Many women enjoy this position best, Britton says. Encourage her to experiment with variations that give her a filled-up feeling. Rear entry (doggie style) allows some of the deepest penetration. In this position, even an average-size penis can bang into the vaginal wall and hurt the woman. Enter slowly and be careful not to thrust too deeply. For an erotic variation, try this one with the woman standing and bent over the back of a sofa with you behind her. Warning: For the few men with unusually large penises, deep penetration should be avoided because of the possibility of hurting the woman. Make Peace with Your Penis"It's a damn shame so many men feel inadequate because of their size," Dodson says. "I urge men to make peace with their penises. It's fine as it is. If you can enjoy what you've got, you'll be a happier lover, and chances are you'll enjoy better sex." �Michael Castleman |



Posted: Jan 13, 07 12:52pm
Wonderful information about my penis -- so much good info!
Posted: Jun 2, 07 10:56am
"The Rare Truth About Penis Size" by Castleman is well intended but not accurate. My research leaves me to conclude otherwise:
1) Size matters. Either huge or really small are problematic. It is NOT true that virtually any size penis can satisfy women. NOT TRUE AT ALL. STOP THE LIE!! This lie actually promotes the suffering less-than-endowed men have to endure.
2) Men AND women are excited or at least intrigued by "large" penises.
3) It is the the Penis-Vagina sensation, not being "skilled" or "Sensitive" or "Has a great peraonality" that is THE issue for men. Average penises provide some friction. LARGE penises provide more friction and a certain physical resistance between penis and vagina, and this begins to create a slight amount of pain that some women say is overcome if they relax and that turns into a feeling of being "filled up", and this is the feeling women talk about having with large penises: girth 6" or larger, length not so important.
4) 80% of men do not have "Large" pensises. Only a small percentage of (large) men can provide a rare (friction, tension, fullness) experience for women. Most men cannot. Most men are fine but do not send women into that "Oh my god" place that large dicks do.
5) Large penises do not make a relationship. Most women want a relationship.
6) Average/small men are not sought out for the same kind of sex large men are---if you are large you might be "used" for your cock; less endowed men do not experience this. Big men who have experienced this report that it's not so great, it just sounds like it is.
7) FALSE ISSUE: you often hear people say, "What good is it if he's big but does not know how to use it?" Sure, but...what about a big guy who also knows how to use it? Also, you'll hear women say that so and so was not big but he was good with his tongue, or he knew how to use what he had. Sure, sure...but this is compensation. In other words--the sex was okay with extra work. So, again, size mattered!!!
Posted: Jun 3, 07 11:22am
Sorry, here's a woman and a sexologist who takes exception to much of what you say....and I bet that my 25+ years of research in both roles beats out yours! Size matters to SOME women, but really, not that many. The visuals might, but not the action. Even a man with a tiny penis can give a woman "that full feeling" that many of us like. Positions of intercourse can make a huge difference. As for size, it's girth that does it for most, rather than length. And thin or thick, a man can use his fingers or hands to "hand ball", that is simulate intercourse with fingers or hand to provide as well if not better.
Over and over I've heard men who feel inadequate of penis poo poo the facts and insist they are being lied to. I insist that when it comes to the penis size issue a woman is far more likely to reject a man who FEELS that he's small than one who actually is.
Posted: Jun 5, 07 9:47am
You're free to believe whatever you like. But in 30 years of sex counseling, no woman has ever complained: My guy's penis is too small. On the other hand, many women have said: He's flipping because he's convinced he's too small. How can I reassure him that he's fine? Now, I'm confident that a small proportion of women (very small) really truly want a guy who's larger than average to "fill them up" in that special way. But in my experience, men are way too concerned about their size. There are exceptions, of course, but in general, it ain't the pen, it's the penmanship.
Posted: Jun 19, 07 4:32pm
With all due respect to Michael and Isadora, I have to partially agree with Bill Savio on this.
Some women are totally indifferent towards penis size ... unless it is extremely small or extremely big.
From the women I've conversed with, length is not nearly as important to most women as thickness/girth is. I would say that at least one out of every three or four women I talk to about penis size says that they prefer a man with a penis that is "above-average" in girth. Many women like to feel "filled up" by men.
Posted: Nov 7, 07 2:28pm
You are correct, from my point of view.
Posted: Nov 10, 07 7:52am
I would have to agree with Bill on most of these.
Size does matter and if a woman tells you it doesn't matter - A. She is lying, B. She loves you and doesn't want to hurt your manhood or/and C. She never experience ecstasy with a larger penis.
Yes, any size normally can provide pleasure but the pleasure is not the same.
Posted: Nov 10, 07 12:20pm
length not so important? In my experience, a penis which can contact both the clitoris and the cervix is the best...but then, I'm not a large woman;..also...Let's consider that childbirth has been demonstrated to increase clittoral/vaginal orgasmic potential, despite the claims of some fathers that their wives felt "too stretched" to give as much pleasure as a young thing.
Let's consider the heresy that men who dump their wives for newer versions may, on average, have smallish penises!!!
Posted: Dec 10, 07 3:03pm
Many years ago I was briefly involved with a young lady who had (alas) spent more time in motel rooms than the classroom. We had a conversation similar to this one during which she declared she had no "G" spot. I assured she did and she replied, "Okay show me" whereupon she opened her mouth and stuck out her tongue.
I heard a couple of years later that she had married one of the richest men in Houston and is now a little old grandmother living in a mansion in River Oaks.
I wonder if she ever found her g spot.
Posted: Dec 10, 07 3:13pm
LoL
If the opportunity ever comes up again, I suggest pointing out the uvula.
Won't do her much good but a lot of future dates may get some pleasure from her confusion.
Posted: Dec 26, 07 5:39pm
I agree. I've had well-hung lovers that were totally hopeless... bam, bam, bam... it's over. Besides being uncomfortable.
Average size lovers that were sensual and into oral that took me to places I've never been before. Actually, it was a combination or oral and digital (anal and vaginal) combined with good tongue action. WOW!!! Forget the 8-9" ones that were clueless!
Posted: Jan 4, 08 12:13pm
bill savio,you must be one of the "biggies"and I tell you that you are wrong!Clitoris and lips are where its at but keep on believing that you are more of a man because its big if thats makes you feel good about yourself!
Posted: Jan 21, 08 6:15pm
Yo,Bill,totally agree with you.I've questioned my now ex-girlfriend about her former lovers(she was married twice).She said that her first husband was good in bed and her second not really.Then,one day I was showing her web site with the pictures of extremely well hung guys and she said that her first husband had huge penis(more than 10 inches).Then I asked her how the sex with him was and she claimed that it was unsatisfactory(I guess she noticed my concern since my dong is 6 3/4").So,if the size does not matter and penises this big are supposedly not so great for women,why did she previously(before she said that he was huge),why did she say that he was good in bed and now claims the opposite.Women like big dicks,they just don't like to admit this.
Posted: Jan 21, 08 7:26pm
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Posted: Jun 3, 07 5:48pm
I agree with most of this, but I am confused by one thing. Why are men carrying phone polls in their pockets? Do these men have small penises and whip out the polls saying, "See, these women say size doesn't matter"? Where did they get the phone polls? Did they call women at random? Can you clear that up for me?
Posted: Aug 1, 07 11:10pm
Isadora, Michael: I appreciate your scholarly and professional input, and to some degree I feel that you are correct: penis size is not strictly, "Bigger is better." But I must bend you back further towards what is true: "Bigger is better a lot of the time." The truth is (men know it, and women who enjoy intercourse know it), it feels good to be filled out by a larger penis. A large penis is particularly capable of rubbing against the labia. This rubbing causes a "tugging" of the clitoris. Also, a long penis can push the cervix GENTLY and cause a full-body incredible "cul-de-sac" orgasm. This kind of orgasm is much more intense, women say, than a clitoral orgasm. And it happens when you have a long penis (7, 8 or more inches) rest against but push gently against the cervix. (Note--cervix contact must be gentle). NONE of this is possible with even an average penis. Again, according to women's reports, this is possible with a penis of about 7 inches (no less) or larger (8 inches sometimes, but not longer), and preferably about 6" in circumference (average is 5" circumference). but onl;y about 10% of men have penises like this!! So a lot of women NEVER have this experience. The women that have had sex with men who had big penises are the women who report that bigger is better. Note that it's not so much denied now that "Girth" is what matters (which is just another way of admitting that, yes, size matters!).
Look, my point is that it's ridiculous to keep promoting the myth that size matters only to a few women, and the other myth is absurd, too: that size does not matter because the vagina expands to whatever size penis the man has.
The verdict is coming in more and more often as women gain freedom to enjoy sex that larger-than-average penises are indeed better. You do get a different, better physical result with big ones. Women do not forget the guys with big ones. They covet them and share their "big" stories with other women at the office. Women who find big guys are envied by their friends. WOmen say to other women, "Oh, you are so lucky." When boy children have large penises, grandmothers and mothers sometimes say, "He'll make the women very happy."
The large penises get an "Oh" reaction when they enter the vagina. When you hear your neighbor screaming, she is not feeling an average or smaller penis!!! You can bet she's got a hung lover. The average and smaller ones are just "nice." "Are you in?" is more likely the utterance
Even in this culture where we feel we are free to admit what we like, THIS IS TABOO to admit!!!! To say that 85% of men fall short of being able to create that great vaginal sensation sounds wrong of course, and maybe even outrageous. But it's true! "Big" men do not have to work hard to give pleasure. Nor do they have to be skilled with their tongues or hands. Nor do they have to be particularly nice!
I know this sounds awful. But it's worse to keep denying it. We've always known this, but the male ego is injured by this. Or, 90% of them are. The 10% of men who are big either brag (obnoxious) or just smile and know what they have, and their women know, too, and call them after they break up!!
It's not all negative here. The good news: women ARE capable of accepting a less-than-big penis if the guy has other good features. Men need to accept that this is true.
Posted: Aug 3, 07 8:44am
Bill, your truths are not THE truth. As a woman as well as a professional sexologist much of what you say is just not so for me or friends and clients I've spoken with who have no reason to pretty up the facts as they see them. I strongly suspect that the reports you've heard from women (many/most/all your sex partners) will be biased.
When the subject of penis size comes up on my Sexuality Forum (www.askisadora.com) it is almost always by a man. It's not that big a topic for women. Women always post to it however, and most , who are all anonymous, contradict your beliefs.
Posted: Aug 3, 07 10:31pm
Isadora--I appreciate your reply. The brevity of your reply persuades me that maybe, just maybe, the "truth" you say is true, IS true (Michael's, too).
Thanks,
Bill
Posted: Aug 8, 07 2:42pm
Again, there are definitely women out in society who love long and/or thick penises. That cannot be argued.
Do ALL women prefer bigger penises?? Of course not. I've spoken with some women who say a five-inch penis or a six-inch penis is just fine with them.
But on the other hand, I know at least a small percentage of women who won't even have sex with a guy unless his penis is a certain length and/or a certain thickness.
Posted: Dec 3, 07 10:25am
Love covers, heals, makes up for, and takes care of everything and is the fulfillment of all laws.
Posted: Dec 13, 07 8:52pm
Professionally (clinically) I am in the business of treating vaginal problems and sexual issues.
Penis size is a common topic in my practice and I have compiled quite a large database of girth size (circumference) in full erection. So, here is the gist:
1. Not all vaginal canals have same depth, just as not all penises are of same length.
2. If the male's penis is longer than the available vaginal length, he will not be fully in. An anatomical fact. No negotiation.
3. What matters to the woman is the girth of the penis as it slides through the 'opening' of the vagina, challenging its elastic expansion, which is determined by the woman's anatomical structure, hormonal influence, state of mind, and more.
4. A woman would take a thinner penis over too-challenging a girth (pain! ouch!).
5. Yes, there are situation of physical incompatibility and I have had several in my own practice. There was nothing the woman could do to 'house' the enormously thick penis (expansion surgery did not help her either) and the couple had to face modified sexual intimacy and/or opt for separation.
6. For the male in nature, penis size plays a (biological) role in expressing its/his sexuality; luckily for us, human males refined their sexual definition to include much more...
7. For the female, inasmuch as a large penis may raise feelings of sexual intrigue, she will always hope that it is not so big as to cause her physical damages upon penetration and/or upon thrusting. After all, she will be entered = 'done to' = a powerful body-mind experience!
Enjoy your body while it works and be happy that all parts fit each other!
Posted: Jan 21, 08 7:30pm
OK. Was gonna leave this alone but I can't help myself. BILL...you are misguided when you say that "big" men do not have to make any effort to give women pleasure. One of the best lovers of my life was a guy who placed on the small side of average (and it was not oral or manual stimulation that landed him that spot on my personal list--sometimes it really IS "the motion of the ocean"lol). The worst was a well endowed man (both length and girth) who was seriously unskilled in the usage of his equipment, During or first (and only) encounter I offered (as politely as possible) to "educate" him. He declined, saying that what he did "worked for him" (I wished him a lot of luck with that).
Sometimes size DOES matter...I had a bf (briefly) who's erect penis had to have been under 3 in. (was not much bigger--if any--than my thumb). I was young and could not see spending the rest of my life with that (God forgive me;-)
And lest you counter with some silly remark about my never having had a "large" lover who was skilled, my 2nd husband was "hung" (over 10in.) and GREAT in the sack. But not better than all others.
So I would say that within certain parameters, "size truly does NOT matter" after all. Sorry about your luck. ;-))
Posted: Aug 10, 07 2:58pm
And what of the women? If everyone of us had healthy, really strong pelvic muscles this discussion would be moot. A woman who knows her body, her mind, her desires, the positions that work for her (taking into account her lover's lingam size) and who does her Kegels often (lots of them!) will have high experiences no matter what his size.
Strong pelvic muscles:
-Increase libido and turn-on
-Increase blood supply, hence oxygen, to the genitals, feeding the four sets of nerves that convey the orgasmic response
-Allow the woman to have complete control over her experience
-Make her a fabulous lover for any man
-Keep her urinary (bladder, waste and urethral tract) tract strong and free from infection
-Make for MUCH stronger orgasmic response levels
-Allow her to feel EVERYTHING inside of her exquisitely well in all parts of her yoni
-MORE
I personally find that I prefer a rare style of lingam that is of any size but has a head that is larger than the shaft and is uncircumcised. The foreskin bunches up on the out-stroke and along with the base of the head (where the skin bunches up) catches appropriately on the G-spot area just about 1 1/2 inches inside the yoni. This assumes that any woman has fully investigated her G-spot and yoni sensations and has maximized her expression of orgasmic pleasure. If her muscles are strong she can take advantage of this out-stroke and grip at that moment to cause a slowing and deepening of the pressure applied to this area. The man will feel it too!
So - women - this is a great daily exercise that all of you might want to actualize for yourselves. 5 to 6 minutes a day for 200 (make ten of them long and slow and stepped like you are going up the rungs of a ladder and back down again).
Taoist or Tantric books will help with this concept. Mantak Chia has many superb books on these subjects. You can check Tantra.com for a few of them.
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Posted: Aug 28, 07 12:39am
Thanks for the good article.
Posted: Nov 7, 07 6:34am
Praise the kegels!
Posted: Dec 4, 07 11:39am
Right on, Suzie!
My OB/GYN taught me about Kegels when I was about 18... I listened and practiced. Now, I'm 63 and still have great muscle tone and a lively sex life.
I've only run across one uncircumcised lover in all these years... it took me a minute to figure out what was different, as he didn't say anything beforehand.
It was a little different.
Some of the big guys, 8" +, aren't always considerate and are into ramming...which can get downright painful. I have accomodate 9", by adjusting angles, but thank heavens, he wasn't a rammer.
I'm happiest right around 7 - 7.25" with suitable girth.
I had some interesting conversations with a man that measured 14" and was as big around as a soda can. He sent photos to prove it. He had trouble finding a female partner that could accomodate that size... I sure wouldn't even try. Going to ER with lacerations would not be my idea of a good time!
Mainly, he masturbated and liked to cum between a woman's breasts... so you see, bigger is NOT always better! Most women don't want a John Holmes penis. I sure don't.
Posted: Jan 27, 08 12:02pm
I think too that an average penis can do the job.It is also true that is important that you know how to please the woman.Size does not matter?Not completely true.I never had a problem pleasuring my wife with my 7" inch dick.However, when I tried a very large strap-on dildo (9" long,7" around) she had screaming orgasms which I was never able to give her with my dick.So ,you can be a good lover,use your tongue and everything,but bigger dick can definitely give her "oh,my god" orgasms.
Posted: Nov 7, 07 6:52am
...and we all know the TV adds ten pounds :)
quoting above...
Why Most Men Think They're Too Small
Where do average-size men get the idea they're too small? "From pornography," explains Richard Pacheco, a male porn star of the 1970s, now retired. "The men in porn are a self-selecting group. Only the guys with the biggest penises audition, and of those, the directors select the largest."
Posted: Nov 7, 07 6:56am
After reading the gist of this discussion, I guess that the real answer is "different strokes for different folks," no matter what the surveys say.
As a marital therapist rather than a sexologist, I have found that it is rare that any marriage ever ends or is held together over penis size. In my mind, relationship is far more complex that "bumping uglies."
I have to wonder how the sex-obsessed minority would come out on a marital satisfaction poll and what elements other than penis size and vaginal tightness would enter into the decision making process. Maybe I'm crazy or old fashioned, but I always looked at sex as the cherry on top of the icing on top of the cake after a good dinner after a long day. If it is great, you have a bonus that is beyond value. If it is ordinary, you can learn techniques to raise the bar.
To those who spend their lives obsessed about sex to the exclusion of everything else, I have to admit, I feel pity for you rather than compassion. I'm a musician and Johnny One-Note, if you remember your musicology was called "Poor Johnny One-Note" ... for good reason.
I'm also not one of those sexless eunuchs who knocks what I don't have. Sexuality - sex and all the trimmings surrounding it - has always been a wonderful healthy part of my relationship. I guess I find fault with people who put it ahead of concern for their partner's other needs, concern for their children, concern for their own development as humans.
Toi those who spend their lives chasing the great sexual wave, after all is said and done and you are old and used up, you will probably simply end up
f-----g yourself - figuratively and literally!
Jeez, did I say that?
Lollipops and unicorns.
Posted: Nov 7, 07 8:12am
Size may matter to some people. I feel if a man is so wrapped up in his size (big or small) he is doing a big injustice to himself and his partner. Sex is about satisfying yourself and your partner. I know my body, I know where my G-spot is, I know how to tighten my muscles, & what techniques work best for me. I never have a problem having an orgasm. I've been with men who are small & ones I felt were a bit too large. Personally, the sensation/satisfaction is much more important to me than the visual.
Someone once said, "it's not the size of the pen, it's how you sign your name." :0)
Posted: Nov 7, 07 2:20pm
milt T,
I appreciate your comments. They are interesting to read. Man, this sex talk gets so technical, just enjoy it folks!!!
Posted: Nov 7, 07 11:18am
* includes photos
All I gotta say is, "I love drinking pilates, early, often, and more than sometimes..."
And if I can't lave 'em, I love 'em... if that ain't good enough, well, as a good friend of mine said, and to which I cried "it's 'cause I cain't,"
I say "F**k 'em..."
"...if only... J.R. Wake UP... get on the payroll, ya little prick!..."
Posted: Nov 7, 07 1:49pm
Ya know what they say? It ain't the size of the paddle in the wave but the size of the wave in the paddle that makes the boat rock!
Posted: Nov 7, 07 2:03pm
Michael, thanks for this timely post! I am fasinated by the fact society is fasinated by this. Hello Isadora, wcbiv49, Milt and Lan... Believe it or not I've got nothing to say! LOL! This is going to be a great read for awhile...
Posted: Nov 8, 07 9:36am
Thanks Michael for bringing up such an interesting subject & to everyone who added their opinions, comments & tips. I learned a-lot about how some men view their bodies. Sex is about pleasure, knowing how to give it and knowing how to receive it. I feel we can all learn from this