The Fattest States in America

The Not-So-Silent Epidemic of Obesity


RobinMillerMD

RobinMillerMD
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Posted: May 29, 07 3:18pm

When George Bush was looking for "weapons of mass destruction," he missed the most obvious weapons that are literally under our noses. I am talking about the tools that can do us the most personal damage--the knife and fork. You may have seen the headlines that our country has grown considerably fatter, but what's shocking is how quickly it has happened. The Center for Disease Control has a morbidly fascinating website where you can see state by state who is growing fatter and how fast.

The states that are the fattest include: Mississippi, Alabama, West Virginia, Louisiana, and Tennessee. The thinner states include: Colorado, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, and Vermont. Thin states can't rest on their laurels though, as they are still fatter than they used to be.


 
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U.S. Obesity Rates 1995

  • Light Blue = 10 - 14% of the population is more than 30 lbs. overweight for a 5' 4" person
  • Dark Blue = 15 - 19%
 
 
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Tom Harris Tom Harris
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Posted: May 30, 07 10:59am

Dr Miller,

Great article and you are right....the CDC web site is a bit morbid. Any idea why the fattest states that you mentioned are all in the south?

How about an article for those of us who are trying to gain weight? I'm 6' 3", 203 pounds but feel and perform better at about 215. Trying to pack on and maintain those extra 10 to 12 pounds is tough.

Thanks,

Tom Harris

 
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jgoldstone jgoldstone
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Posted: May 30, 07 6:03pm

Ever been to the South Tom? Our son used to live in Biloxi and we spent a lot of time traveling through. The people are great, but, try to find a salad! Everything on most menues is fried. I wouldn't suggest moving to Alabama etc. Probably the best you can do is exercise and concentrate on healthy carbs and protein. Dietaty supplements like whey protein are probably ok as well, but always in moderation. Jim G., M.D.

 
 
 
whitemanitou whitemanitou
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Posted: Oct 6, 07 7:18am

Ever been to the South? Everything is "fried"! And there are plenty of buffets (I like to call the hog troughs. I used to frequent them)

 
 
 
40snfabulous 40snfabulous
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Posted: Oct 7, 07 12:32pm

I am a lifetime Georgian and my theory on why southern states are "fat" has to do with economics and lifestyle. They like their food fried and they cover their fried food with gravy. If you check out the economics of the states mentioned in the article I think you will find them pretty near the bottom of the socioeconomic and education ladders. They eat what they can afford and have little knowledge about nutrition.

 
 
 
Charlotte Rodgers Charlotte Rodgers
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Posted: Nov 14, 07 10:47pm

Eat Chicken-fried steak, mashed potatoes with gravy, and fried okra. I promise you'll put on weight.

 
 
 
GregSherwin GregSherwin
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Posted: May 31, 07 10:59am

I see two reasons for this rapid rise in obesity with roots in the early 1980s:

1. The Food Supply

American farm policy changed with deregulation, and the administration of the time removed controls on production. Farmers were thus encouraged to grow more food. Food production in this country grew extensively, and the total food supply in the U.S. (food supply per capita) grew from about 3200 calories/day in the early 1980s to about 3900 calories/day by the year 2000. So there was a lot more food to sell.

2. Wall Street's "Shareholder Value Movement"

Also in the 1980s, shareholders demanded higher immediate returns on investment. Public companies suddenly had to report earnings every 90 days to demonstrate continual growth in earnings and profits every quarter.

So the food companies were faced with a challenge of how to sell more food while there was already plenty in the supply -- so they changed society. They made food more ubiquitously available in places, and available at times, where it was never before available. Now we snack all day. Now we have vending machines in schools. Etc, etc.

 
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richard richard
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Posted: Jun 8, 07 11:36am

Yeah, free markets gone awry. Enter the era of being a good corporate citizen. Although this is way down on the list in that regard. At some point when health care will be out of reach for *ALL* americans, then we may take a look at the causes instead of treating symptoms, like obesity.

Side note: Food production also drives immigration. American agribusinesses put a lot of farmworkers out of business in places like Mexico. Which in turn drives immigration for labor jobs into the US. A fence won't do shit to stem that tide.

 
 
 
Charlotte Rodgers Charlotte Rodgers
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Posted: Nov 14, 07 10:48pm

We also have food advertisement on television.

 
 
 
whitemanitou whitemanitou
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Posted: Nov 16, 07 8:45am

Ever read the labels on the food we eat? Sugar, High Fructose Corn Syrup Fat Sat Fat. It takes a real effort to eat correctly.

 
 
 
RobinMillerMD RobinMillerMD
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Posted: Jun 4, 07 7:18am

Hi Tom, I think the growth of the internet has something to do with our expanding girth. More and more people are choosing to play at computers instead of playing outside. Our desire for convenience has increased our appetite for fast food and that is a big problem when it comes to weight gain. Our portion sizes have grown with everything else. Have you ever noticed the size of plates in restaurants? As far as gaining weight, I agree with JGoldstone. You might also want to increase the frequency of your meals and add some smoothies with some whey added.

 
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richard richard
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Posted: Jun 8, 07 11:53am

Robin, I don't see this connection you are making?

"I think the growth of the internet has something to do with our expanding girth. More and more people are choosing to play at computers instead of playing outside."

Can you substantiate that?

I would agree that people can get out of balance, we've heard this claim before, and the scapegoat was TV. How about desk jobs? By that logic, having a desk job contributes to obesity.

The bottom line is, if you are sedentary for a large part of the day, you either need to eat less or exercise more.

It is true that portions are increasing, that statement is well supported, both anecdotally and with research. Here is the CDC's rollup of that information:

http://tinyurl.com/5wboo

 
 
 
GregSherwin GregSherwin
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Posted: Jun 8, 07 2:00pm

I'm less inclined to partially blame the Internet for these effects -- since obesity is a growing problem across all age groups, video games are perhaps more responsible than Internet use for childhood inactivity, and Internet usage has typically come at the expense of other media forms (TV viewing, etc.) than out of sports or exercise.

But portion sizes have absolutely grown. Part of it is an odd cultural mentality for "value" that we seem to have -- i.e., that "more" is always better, that a lot of something mediocre is better than a little of something really good. Our car seats have gotten bigger. Our home furniture has become larger. As for plates, all you have to do is walk into an antique store and look at all the "appetizer plates" to realize that our dinner plates have even grown so large as to make us look like bus drivers over the decades.

 
 
 
RobinMillerMD RobinMillerMD
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Posted: Jun 8, 07 7:26pm

Hi Richard, If you want to see if computers have an impact on obesity as well as TV check out the article at:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3912/is_200307/ai_n9240239/print

Obesity and its causes are complex. Moving less and eating more is in fact what it boils down to. What causes a person to move less for many, especially children, is the computer and TV.

 
 
 
LoraMa LoraMa
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Posted: Jun 12, 07 9:44pm

Richard,

I don't think computers are totally to blame for obesity but I agree with Robin that it contributes to the problem. And here's why I think so... when I used to go backpacking, we used to trim the tags off our supplies, we'd repackage our food, we'd look for every ounce we could shave off because all those little things add up. we'd actually put all the "trimmings" in a pile to weight at the end and I'm telling you... it was always at least a pound or two.

now think about the impact email has had on our lives... no more walking to and from the mail room or the mail box, we don't even have to walk across the office to talk to a coworker because you can instant message them. and look at all the things we can buy online... no more physical trips to the store, where you walk around and move. it all adds up.

 
 
 
whitemanitou whitemanitou
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Posted: Oct 6, 07 7:25am

Both good points! In Europe (east and west) the portions in restaurants are much smaller than in the US. And, in Russia, for example, nearly everyone walks. To see a group of Russians walking in Moscow is interesting. They are all slightly leaned forward, focused on getting to their destination as fast as possible. I saw very few fat people in Russia.

 
 
 
CarolT CarolT
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Posted: Jun 8, 07 3:38pm

I think it's partly due to the fact that daily activities use fewer calories than they used to. Very few people drive a standard transmission anymore. Even fewer people don't have power steering and power windows, and so on. Doors to stores are automatic. Very few people wash dishes by hand. The list goes on and on. Individually, these things probably don't make much difference, but the cumulative effect does.

And speaking of cars, I read somewhere that the longer the commute, the more overweight the individual. I don't know if there's a causal relationship, but it seems plausible that the more time you spend in a car, the less time you have for more active pursuits.

 
 
 
Milt T Milt T
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Posted: Aug 6, 07 7:29am

What is the strangest thing about statistics is that now they came up with the antithesis of your postulate stating that overweight people have the better chance to survive heart attacks ... even if they are at higher risk of getting them.

You know what? Perhaps we need to look at many other factors than just weight in determining health. If you find a ninety-year-old who is overweight, do you tell him that he should diet? He certainly is already living on the "other side of the statistical chart."

In the same mode, do we accept preventive surgeries? I'm in that position now. My doctor is "insisting" that I have my parathyroid removed because it is producing too much calcium and COULD cause kidney stones. Hell, I could get hit by a block of frozen detritus dropped by an airplane. Should I build a bomb shelter?

There are limits to what we should craze over. If people in the South are too heavy because they eat a fattier and starchier diet, maybe they are happier as well because ... they don't walk around looking like a concentration camp survivors ... or nonsurvivor's.

Life is a balance. In semi-jest, all I know is I have outlived every doctor who predicted my early demise from something I was doing or not doing. Now, all I can say for certain is that it is now impossible for me to die young. My longevity already took care of that.

 
 
 
goaalfred goaalfred

Posted: Sep 12, 07 3:04am

Big Business is responsible for Big People.

Bottom Lines are responsible for Big Bottoms.

2 b continued...

 
 
 
Expatriate Expatriate
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Posted: Oct 6, 07 10:22am

Reasons for the American obesity problem are not so mysterious. Here in France, the rate of household Internet use is among the highest in the world. And unfortunately, there is increasing viewing of TV and other sedentary activities. However, these factors are secondary.

Recent studies here in France have indicated that it is not so much the content of our diet per se that keeps our weights down. On the contrary, no one would say that French food is light or low-fat, and no meal goes without a portion of cheese, bread, wine along with salads and our many regional staples of often elaborate dishes. Rather the biggest factor appears to be very simply that we continue to have family meals. Meals continue to have a very important social dimension and it is as much the time we spend at the table than the content (however good). This means that we eat at a slower pace and ultimately smaller quantities. This also means that snacking is relatively nonexistent (kind of equivalent in the States to drinking alone or talking to oneself…).

When I took my children to the US to the first time last year to visit my family I was struck by the apparent loss of this basic social hygiene. The refrigerator was like a refill station where getting food was similar to getting gas. Houseguests were free to "help themselves" as people carried plates like some fast food outlet to the table. My wife and children were astounded and in amazement by this seeming anarchy and absence of basic 'savoir vivre'. And yet in this very same town when I grew up, the family meal was still a central ritual and there were no overweight children at all. The problem in the US is of course exacerbated by the increasing portion sizes. For example, a recent study has indicated that a simple portion of yogurt from a supermarket in the US has 60% more than the same portion in a supermarket here. My boys who dreamed of trying a real American hamburger were taken to a small local restaurant known for its burgers. To my surprise, my strong athletic 14-year-old boy couldn't even finish half the hamburger served to him, so big it was...

 
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RobinMillerMD RobinMillerMD
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Posted: Oct 7, 07 8:11am

Good point. When people eat in front of the TV or computer they eat significantly more than they would if at the dinner table eating with people!

 
 
 
Milt T Milt T
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Posted: Oct 7, 07 11:30am

I found what for me is the perfect cure to eating either in front of the television or the computer.

Eating in front of the computer cure: Buy a computer desk that has room only for the gadgets and not even enough room for a small dish.

Eating in front of the television cure: Buy a new, light-colored, very expensive carpet. Make certain that the carpet also runs under the china cabinet - a huge one that takes the better part of a day to empty and store the contents therein. It also doesn't hurt to take away the coffee table.

All my eating now takes place in the kitchen at the table. You are correct, my meals are about the same but snacking has disappeared. For the most part, I did it not because I was hungry but because I could.

We never keep too many snacks in the house other than raisins and carrots and very few sweets except when my granddaughter is visiting. I know ... they aren't good for her but I love the smile I get when I put out a few fresh-baked (at the bakery - we don't do baking) chocolate chip cookies. Anyway, she is slender as a sunflower and a once in a while treat is good for her soul and doesn't do any damage to her body.

 
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RobinWolaner RobinWolaner
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Posted: Oct 7, 07 11:41am

The perfect eating in front the of the computer cure: spilling something that causes hard drive failure. Or minor problems that cause keyboard replacement. Not that I have done either of these. Repeatedly. :)

 
 
 
LSLMom LSLMom
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Posted: Oct 7, 07 12:20pm

I believe that culturally we are not burning enough calories. A normal day for most people is to ride ina car or bus, stay in a house or office, watch tv, make a quick carb and calorie filled dinner, We go out to lunch or make a high calorie lunch, drink high calorie drinks and do very little calorie burning labor. We certainly don't have to hunt for food.

The average person is wired for casual activity where the engine is not running on high. It is the hyperavtive or person with a lot of adrenaline that is really more unusual. They generally live to eat because the switch isn't calling them to the kitchen or snack.

Unless we start spending more time in the kitchen and doing food preparation and shopping this will continue to be a problem. We also need to burn burn burn more calories.

How about we start with going to school in our neighborhoods then we can walk. Build more local shopping stores rather than big malls and box stores. Get off the tractor mower, ride bikes, walk to place of worship, turn off the tube a little and listen to the radio like the old days....Gotta go, I have to make dinner and maybe I need to get off this computer too!

LSLMom

 
 
 
Domenicoluigi Domenicoluigi
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Posted: Oct 7, 07 12:41pm

Statistics only show people's preferences or in this case addictions.

Maybe the question should be addressed as to why people have such addictions?

 
 
 
AnitaP AnitaP
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Posted: Oct 7, 07 12:55pm

Oh comeon lets not forget the Yo-yo diets.

I can't speak personally for others here or abroad.

But I'm morbidly obese and I know that I do not eat in moderation, however I eat fresh vegetables, fruits and avoid red meat.

Stats are somewhat nonsense...I like the recent one that liquor is not good for women....can cause breast cancer. I wonder how long it'll be before stats will contradict that.

My 93 yr old mother was told that her "bad" cholesterol is very high. They keep warning us and want to put her on statins. When she was in her 60s they were really high, so the doctor put her on a restricted diet. She went from 155 lbs to 130 lbs at 5'5".........and her bad cholesterol didn't budge/lower. So now 30+ years later they want to put her on meds to prevent her from dying. Huh? She has never had a stroke, heart attack....not even angina. She doesn't get headaches ever.

But my real comments are in regards to diets. Does America really know how to eat? Are our priorities nutrician or convenience?

Every January when you are suppose to make your resolutions; and after a 3 month food fest, starting at Halloween and ending around the Super Bowl (appropriately named).........the Diet Industry and Fitness Clubs go into overdrive to get your business. Every rag to riches magazines dedicate their space to the latest diet craze.

They are all the perfect recipe for disaster. And meanwhile your metabolism is bouncing all over and has no clue to what you want.

Those diets may work for losing 5lbs. Any more then that will come back with additional pounds once you stop the diet and go back to your old or new bad ways. If you cannot seriously make permanent changes in your life, then you are better off maintaining then to play diet roulette.

 
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whitemanitou whitemanitou
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Posted: Oct 7, 07 1:32pm

I found myself in a position of being "helpless" before and after Katrina. It was a result of my drinking too much whiskey and eating too much food. Don't get me wrong, food and whiskey are BOTH very comfortable for me. First I gave up whiskey. Damn that STILL smarts! Then I got tired of the same old crap from the Dr's "Well if you'd just lose weight....." So, I did NOT go on a diet. I changed what I eat period. If I knew that I could drink whiskey, eat like a hog and just die (quickly and suddenly), that is precisely what I would do. But, having had a taste of being helpless and being taken advantage of, treated like a "non person" or with just plain disgust, I decided that is not how I want to go.

It has been extremely difficult. I went through extreme depression, intense pain and absolute misery. But, I have pushed part of the way to the other side through the pain and dispair. I am going to try to make it all the way. No sugar, very few starches, no red meat, gym 4 times a week and martial arts daily.

If you are happy where you are and your mom is happy, nobody needs to tell you what to do. Sometimes I felt like I was being preached to every time I went to see a physician. I was a bad person, of no worth, did this to myself ad infinitum. Some people have good genes and can get away with more than others. You and your mom seem to be in that category. Enjoy your life. Do what you do. Eat what you eat. Drink what you drink. Yo Yo diets do not work. You are absolutely correct. Live the lifestyle that suits YOU best and ignore the fads and all the other BS.

Liquor eats your liver and makes you drunk and out of control if you use too much. So, use it in moderation. I doubt a glass of wine with dinner will give you breast cancer. I am just a person of extremes. I do best with a Spartan lifestyle combined with a lot of research and communication. Enjoy!

 
 
 
AnitaP AnitaP
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Posted: Oct 7, 07 1:59pm

Congrads Whitemanitou on making your changes and surviving the ultimate tests!!!!

I should've mentioned too that my 4'8" 93 yr old mother also has a glass of champagne everynight after her dinner. And she has never had cancer.

Wishing you continual success in creating a good life for yourself!

 
 
 
AsianBeauty AsianBeauty
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Posted: Nov 16, 07 9:45am

I believe larger serving portion and lack of exercise contributed obesity increase in US.

1. Large portion. I am from Japan and have been living here for a little over 20 years. When I first came to this country, I was so surprised by large portion they served here. I would literally get completely full by eating rolls and salad, that I could not even touch the main course. After 20 years of living here, I can now not only finish the main course, I can eat dessert after that. I believe our body will adjust to size of food intake. If we let our body to eat large portion, over time we feel we need to eat that satisfy our hunger.

2. Lack of exercise – US heavily relies on automobile for transportation. Unless you live in Manhattan or major metropolitan area, it is almost impossible to survive without a car. So you drive to wherever you need to go rather than take public transportation or even walk. When I was living in Japan, I at least took 10,000 steps during the course of day just by commute back and forth to work/shopping etc.

On the side note:

Conspiracy by fashion industry - When I first came to this country 20 years ago, I was a size Petite 2. I had such hard time finding clothes that fit. After 20 years and 6 lbs weight gain, I am now a size Petite 0. It is nearly impossible to find clothes! How can this be? I believe fashion industry is adjusting sizes to fool people into believing they are thinner than they really are!

AB

 
 
 
RobinMillerMD RobinMillerMD
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Posted: Nov 17, 07 8:41am

You are right about the clothes AB. It is a well known fact that the size #'s have gotten smaller and the clothes are larger!

 
 
 
ZaZumbaDeb ZaZumbaDeb

Posted: Nov 25, 07 8:03pm

Asian beauty..in reference to the sentence in your post "Conspiracy by fashion industry - When I first came to this country 20 years ago, I was a size Petite 2."...

it's called Vanity Sizing....the old size 12 is now an 8...8 now a 4...you're now a double 00.

wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanity_sizing

 
 
 
christyintexas christyintexas
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Posted: Dec 18, 07 8:58am

 
 
christyintexas christyintexas
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Posted: Dec 18, 07 9:02am

Excellent point regarding nutrition or convenience! It's so tempting when we're tired and overworked and lack energy to just "drive through" !!

Each opportunity to make a bad choice is also an opportunity to make a good one though. I try to remember that. I need to paste it on my speedometer.

 
 
 
roxley roxley
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Posted: Dec 18, 07 9:16am

My sister-in-law attributes obesity partly to stretchy waisted pants!

We are a nation of overweight people, but we are malnourished!

Also when I started teaching preschool years ago it was very unusual to see an overweight 4 year old. By the end of my career it was pretty commonplace to have several overweight (and sometimes obese) four year olds in one class!

 
 
 
kle618 kle618
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Posted: Dec 18, 07 10:48am

I totally agree with Robin--the two biggest reasons for overweight kids is portion sizes/junk food and sitting in front of the computer or tv playing games. Kids don't play outside anymore--they park in front of the computer. The computer itself is not to blame but the parents who use it as a babysitter or who do not control the amount of time spent in front of it are.

PE isn't required in school anymore except for one year in junior high and one year in high school so kids aren't forced to exercise. Most don't exercise on their own--most of us don't exercise on our own!

For that matter, fewer families eat meals together and many of those meals are put together from pre-cooked or packaged kits. Fat and sodium contents are through the roof. Working in a grocery store, that was one thing I noticed regularly. Families would come through with their carts filled to overflowing with frozen meals or frozen kits to prepare a meal from, Hamburger Helper type products, Spaghettios, sugar-filled cereals, soda by the gallon, packaged salad mix--nothing to create a meal from scratch. And we wonder why our society is getting heavier and more people are developing diabetes and other weight-related conditions?

 
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whitemanitou whitemanitou
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Posted: Dec 18, 07 11:00am

My issue with PE was the "sports" aspect of it. I couldn't stand it. When I got into HS, I asked the coach (very progressive for that time) if I could work out on the bars and run track for the mandatory hour.

I did and got into pretty good shape. To this day I can't stand baseball or football!

 
 
 
JD11 JD11
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Posted: Jan 15, 08 6:55am

I agree with 80% of what you wrote. Parents need to stay active to keep the kid's active. My wife and I both go to the gym with our kid's which are teenagers 14 & 17. My daughter is involved in gymnastics/cheerleading and my son in motocross. Yes they are both expensive sports BUT they are not big gamers/internet buff's. We do stop off of the fast food restaurants on occasion but we also have plenty of healthy food in the house. We have soda in the house diet though they do not seem to mind. The wife makes cookies with splenda and fat free butter they taste just fine to us made that way. The kid's are a product of their environment we need to show good habits. My son and I jog, go to the gym and ride dirt bikes together we do not have time for PS2.

 
 
 
RobinMillerMD RobinMillerMD
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Posted: Jan 15, 08 8:18am

JD11, Being involved with your kids and setting an example is so important. The pay-off is immediate!

 
 
 
Fromz Fromz
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Posted: Dec 18, 07 11:11am

Sniff, sniff. What's that smell? Sniff, why I think I smell the food police.

This is a BS argument.

Just as evidence shows those over the recommended BMI - 18.5 if I remember right - all the way up to a BMI of 30 are healthier than those with a BMI of 17 or lower . . .

Just as $22 Billion of cholesterol drugs, many with side effects like liver failure and cancer, are stuffed down our throats every year despite mounting evidence cholesterol is not a cause of heart attacks . . .

Now the food police are stepping up, preparing to tell us what we can and can't eat or at least tax the sh7t out of anything they don't approves of.

California is working on it even as we speak. Yes, the ultimate nanny state is about to screw over caffeine drinkers.

 
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whitemanitou whitemanitou
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Posted: Dec 18, 07 11:19am

Take away my caffeine and I will FIGHT! Please, tell us more! THAT is a bit too much if it is true!

 
 
 
Fromz Fromz
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Posted: Dec 18, 07 11:25am

Here's the story so far: http://www.acsh.org/factsfears/newsID.1104/news_detail.asp

The mayor of SF, I think, is trying to put an extra tax on sodas as well.

I think I'll go drink a Pepsi and eat some cheese.

 
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