3rd-Graders Aimed to Hurt Teacher

Earende

Posted: Apr 1, 08 8:32pm

A group of third-graders plotted to attack their teacher, bringing a broken steak knife, handcuffs, duct tape and other items for the job and assigning children tasks including covering the windows and cleaning up afterward.

The plot by as many as nine boys and girls was a serious threat.

The children, ages 8 and 9, were apparently mad at the teacher because she had scolded one of them for standing on a chair. A prosecutor said they are too young to be charged with a crime under Georgia law.

What have we created?

What are your thoughts?

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Posted: Apr 1, 08 8:38pm

A group of third-graders plotted to attack their teacher, bringing a broken steak knife, handcuffs, duct tape and other ...

This ranks up there with last week's parents who prayed over their daughter as she was dying instead of getting medical attention for her. They won't be prosecuted either.

chimimimusic
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Posted: Apr 1, 08 8:43pm

A group of third-graders plotted to attack their teacher, bringing a broken steak knife, handcuffs, duct tape and other ...

much as I'm against it perhaps corporal punishment might be in order.

Posted: Apr 1, 08 8:51pm

A group of third-graders plotted to attack their teacher, bringing a broken steak knife, handcuffs, duct tape and other ...

Where are kids getting such ideas from? Is it just the news/tv?

The degree of calculated criminal planning that went into this suggests to me that we are looking at developing psycho-pathological minds in operation. Perhaps the ring-leaders are too far gone already to be helped. I wonder about the other 6 or 7 kids, and wonder what can be done to intercept their budding major social problems.

The law seems to assume that children under a certain age are too young to act responsibly, and know the consequences of what they're doing. Clearly, with the amount of planning, these kids knew responsible and consequential behavior. Should they go to reform school?

Posted: Apr 1, 08 10:41pm

Where are kids getting such ideas from? Is it just the news/tv?

The degree of calculated criminal planning that went ...

The news article I read referred to the kids as being "normal, well-adjusted kids" that were in a special class for kids with add, adhd, and other issues.

13 is the age in Georgia to be tried for a crime. They have been suspended from school--we'll see if anything else happens. I wonder what their parents think about the whole thing! The article said that the parents have been sitting in when the kids are interviewed by the police because they can't question them without a parent or guardian present.

Could be an eye opener for some of the parents.

Posted: Apr 1, 08 11:28pm

A group of third-graders plotted to attack their teacher, bringing a broken steak knife, handcuffs, duct tape and other ...

My thought are we are being given too much information. During WW2 Americans only knew our troops were, "Over There". We did not see the actual fighting. When I was little we did not know the crimes that were happening in a little town 2000 miles away from us. Let alone the Middle East. The soldiers would come home and leave the war over there. Now it follows them home. There is no escape from it. There has always been war and crime.

I am not saying we should not be informed of the crime that is happening near us. But why show our children AND adults exactly how to commit these crimes that are happening all over the world. It is mind bending to see and not be able to do anything about it.

Too Much Information

Posted: Apr 2, 08 1:13am

My thought are we are being given too much information. During WW2 Americans only knew our troops were, "Over There". ...

Viet Nam was the "dinner time war" because it was on the 6pm news while people were having dinner. So we have been knowing what's going on half a world away since we were kids.

It seems that you run into two types of parents with children who have ADD, ADHA, etc. One type makes sure the kids get their meds and follows up on expecting them to toe the mark behavior-wise and grade-wise. The second type *maybe* makes them take their meds and figures they've done their job, leaving the rest of anything to the schools and maybe doctor.

I have a grandson who is the first type. He's expected to behave, do his school work, do chores to get his allowance and he does well. He does well because he's kept on a routine.

For a couple years, I lived in a household that the parents were of the second type. If the perscription ran out, the kids could go for several days without their meds. The older of the two kids, refused to take his meds and his mother allowed it. She had no control over him at all. He ran with the kids who were always getting arrested, he cut up another kid's leather jacket, and a kid, ran around threatening to rape a girl at the top of his lungs and this kid was 11. His younger brothers were afraid of him so they would sleep in my room to know they were safe from him. Then the kid put a knife thru my door one day. I'm not referring to between the door and the door jam, I mean thru the door. He almost got one of his brothers with it.

This kid's mother just didn't bother to try and make him behave at all. And while I was watching the kids while she was at work, he decided that since she didn't make him listen to her, he didn't have to listen to me.

These kids with these problems need to have the proper meds, the proper supervision at home, the proper supervision at school, and above all, routine. Where the average child is bored silly with that much routine, these kids need it.

After hearing this story in the news, I think that I would also say that you can see from being around these kids who has the mean streak and who doesn't. Keep the mean streaks well separated from each other. These kids from that school sound like the 11 year old I was talking about above. One of them had to be the ring leader and the others obviously thought it would be fun to be part of the group. I have doubts that they thought it through, except maybe the one that was the ring leader. They definately need MORE than a slap on the wrist.

Posted: Apr 2, 08 8:46am

A group of third-graders plotted to attack their teacher, bringing a broken steak knife, handcuffs, duct tape and other ...

Thanks for bringing this up, Earende. Where did this occur? JackieRodzinski(TheInquiringEye)