My time to die

Risk is part of living, and most people believe that we minimize risk to our life by making ongoing good and safe decisions forever ... living "carefully" as you say.

You seem to imply instead, that life and death are in the hands of fate, and the script for life has been written presumably before birth, maybe at conception. One could thus make the argument that living "carefully" or "carelessly" would not impact what fate already has in store for us.

We can certainly precipitate an untimely death by suicide, unless you are saying that this also constitutes a pre-ordaned proper time to die.

I am not religious, I do not believe in anything paranormal, and psychics are a sham. However, I do subscribe to the "when it's your time" theory. I can't explain it but I believe it.

I'm saying that this constitutes a preordained proper time to die.

TIE

Well, TIE! From what I understand you're saying here (and I admit, and you would agree, that I'm rather hopeless at understanding women!) is that some form of biological clock is set by some form of "higher power" (it couldn't be genetic). Presumably it is therefore set by some form of divinity, which of course nobody can prove one way or the other. And, nothing we do, cross busy roads without looking, eat McDonalds all day; or work-out in the gym 10 hours a day, eat tofu (whatever that is), etc will make the slightest difference. And, if you get really sick and a Dr saves your life, that was going to happen anyway.

I don't know you deeply enough to understand your belief in religion. I know you are against organized religion; but about your beliefs I don't know.

This theory seems to run totally against my understanding of your, and my, acceptance of forms of deity.

Tony, dear Tony...

A.

The error of your ways lies in 'trying to understand women' rather than evaluating an individual on their own merits regardless of gender.

B. What 'I'm saying' is not within the context of any religion or spiritualistic ideology. It is not necessary to 'know' me at all. I am mearly pointing out an observation and drawing an (admittedly) weak link in that observation.

I have already made my comment (see below) that I believe in the "when it's your time" theory mainly because people die in such odd ways. However, I also believe that if you don't take care of your self and exercise caution that you can hasten that moment. Now that I think about it, it's rather irrational and I guess you can attribute all of the strange deaths in the world to the same odds of life being discovered on other planets. It is perfectly plausible but it's just that we haven't found any life yet.

This discussion reminds me of an old novel, "Venus on the Half Shell" written by Kilgore Trout (real name: Philip Jose Farmer, a Kurt Vonnegut fan). In the novel, the hero goes to the ends of the earth to find the creator of the universe, a giant cockroach named Bingo. The hero asks Bingo why man was put on earth only to suffer and die and Bingo's answer is, "Why not?" It's the same thing here when we are discussing our mortality.

This is a rather pointless theory that there is an appointed (by whom?) time to die. If you have a traumatic experience that doesn't kill you one can explain it as sheer luck or it wasn't "your time." When you do die, from any cause at all, then obviously everyone else can say it was your time. There's no way out of such a loop. You die when you die and don't when you don't.