Change is hard, change takes time, change has to be for ourself, people will say anything in a crisis, we can't control anything past our fingertips, it is what it is, what are you showing me right now, not what you are going to show me.

Good morning all!

You sent the rain to Jersey? Thanks.... ;-)

I slept in a bit...Birthday party last night and I had way TOO much wine, but it was good!! The gym should be interesting later...;-}

I'm charging right in here...excellent topic, thanks Mark.

Compromise is a good thing providing you are not the only one doing it. Then it becomes constant surrender. That's not a good thing and very destructive.

Forgiveness is good, and if you truly forgive there is no resentment to hold on to. If you can achieve this, you're a better person than I....some things can be forgiven, others never forgotten so in the pure sense never really forgiven.

I'm off to ponder if my body will forgive my mouth for consuming way too much wine last night, it will be quite the battle...

Son #2 is home for the weekend...life is good!

Have a great day everyone!

Compromise works if both are compromising.

BUT if this comes with great pain and loss, and if with the forgiving and forgetting there is bitterness... no, it doesn't work.

Mark, I don't know your situation.

My ex cheated on me two times (I'm sure it was more but I was too naive to know). Both times with the same person - his best friends wife. The first time I left, he begged me to come back. I have to wonder why because within a year I was leaving again for the same reason. Perhaps, he cheated again because though I could forgive, I couldn't forget, and had lost my trust in him.

Some things can be overcome, but you must consider the cost for both of you. If the love and joy of each other outweighs the pain and memory of what set you apart then perhaps....

Compromise?

It's foggy here and quite cool.

Can two people both give 100%?

Well being married since the beginning of time ,i learn the art compromise ,with out it we would have killed each other cause we are true opposites. When I felt like throwing into the towel i would sit and think of all the positives of our relationship.Even a good fight is more fun and more alive then being by yourself.

btw I open a discussion cause I thought you were sleeping in .GEt up and Good Morning Crew

Are you compromising your principles or ideals? I would never compromise on either one of those.

p.s.-My Grandmother used to say, "if you don't forget, you've not really forgiven."

Mark,

I can't really speak to your situation. All I can do is tell you about mine.

It hurts. I hurts more than I could ever truly tell. I am sitting here, attempting to write this, with tears rolling down my cheeks.

Jacqueline died just over 5 yrs ago, and I still love her more than I can imagine ever loving anyone again. Yet, it sound as though your relationship is much as hers and mine was.

I wish to God there was some way I could go back. That I could have understood why. That I had know about the molestation sooner. And that knowing about it, I would have had the wisdom to know why she treated me the way she did. That I would not have given up.

The separations are the worst part. The times I walked out, which hurt her so deeply. I didn't understand then, that when things were at their worst, that was when she needed me the most. She needed me to prove that I loved her. But I was stupid. And being stupid, I was weak.

I spend every day wishing that I could hold her again. That I could tell her how sorry I am and just how much I miss her and love her.