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No doubt World Climate is changing. How and why?

Posted: Jun 5, 08 3:39pm

Is the world warming? In my part of Alaska, we recently had one of the coldest winters in the last 20 years and our summer is one of the coolest and "slowest" of recent times, but I’m not sure that means much in the big picture of things. Still, in the context of world controversy, one wonders about underlying causes. What's the science in our understanding of climate? Below are videos from U-tube regarding global warming or global climate change, which ever politically charged language one prefers. If you are interested in the arguments on both sides you'll find these videos interesting. I prefer a scientific perspective.... my concern is the politicizing of science. Objectivity is a hallmark of the empirical process. Political policy should be driven by science rather than vice versa, but that's just me. While climate certainly seems to be in a state of flux, some believe it's not clear why, or how, or, given longitudinal data, in which direction, while others believe such clarity is obvious. We each have to weigh the evidence and come to our own conclusions.

Due to varying bandwidths and computer speeds, some of these videos' download times will take a little patience to play smoothly. Notice that, at each of these presentations, there are other links to many perspectives on the pro, cons, what to dos, what not to dos, etc., etc .... Check them out as you like.

For your consideration:

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=FOLkze-9GcI

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=XDI2NVTYRXU&NR=1

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=fr5O1HsTVgA&feature=related

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=zORv8wwiadQ&feature=related

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Fromz

Posted: Jun 5, 08 3:58pm

Oh Jesus. When they find this, the true believers will be all over you.

Excellent videos btw. Too bad some people are unable to hear them.

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Jon Deisher

Posted: Jun 6, 08 1:53am

Heh! ... you might be right, Fromz. But, belief should follow the science, not the other way around. The four videos give a spectrum of arguments .... given this hypotheses: "Does carbon dioxide increase global warming?" Which of them provides the best empirical evidence and most reasonable description and interpretation of the data? Scientifically, we should not be interested in a single source of data or single interpretation, when accepting support for or against a hypotheses.

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Fromz

Posted: Jun 6, 08 4:05am

I agree completely.

But MDI (Man Did It) global warming has become more a religion than science for some. It's almost like they have some deep need to believe evil man is destroying the world.

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Jon Deisher

Posted: Jun 6, 08 9:22am

The let the true believers come. If the scientific method is my vessel in the tempest, then they are throwing spitballs at a battleship. There are some unaccounted for data, or other potential variables,(the earth's slightly elipitical orbit around the sun, for example) that make the "it depends" response the most ambiguously clear answer most persuasive. Anyone wanting a clearer answer than that can kick and scream all they want.

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