and 14 of the hottest years have occured since 1988. you must be desparate.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26335873/

Can't wait- good ol' Brits. I'll take my skiis in for a tune up tomorrow!!! Think it's worth buying a season's pass this year?

Ok, here we go. How many times will we kick this one around? While global climate change seems indisputable ... whether it's warming or not is the topic of much debate.

For myself, I can only say that here in Alaska we've had the chilliest summer in 20 years. Yeah, yeah, I know. Other parts of the country, and the world, have it differently. One year, or ten, or even 100 may not give enough data for a trend. Nevertheless, folks here are getting ready for a colder winter than we've seen in a good number of years. I'll let you know in the spring how it went. As an indicator, some species of birds have already gone south and the cottonwoods are already turning golden and beginning to lose their leaves ... we'll see.

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I agree Jon. And, in reality, the limited data used to justify "global warming" isn;t long enough to tell us if recent warming is an anomaly or not, let alone what the cause is.

There is this study from the peer reviewed journal Meteorology and Atmospheric Physics, Multi-scale analysis of global temperature changes and trend of a drop in temperature in the next 20 years, which, if proven accurate, tell us a great deal we didn't know about climate.

Synopsis:

A novel multi-timescale analysis method, Empirical Mode Decomposition (EMD), is used to diagnose the variation of the annual mean temperature data of the global, Northern Hemisphere (NH) and China from 1881 to 2002. The results show that: (1) Temperature can be completely decomposed into four timescales quasi-periodic oscillations including an ENSO-like mode, a 6-8-year signal, a 20-year signal and a 60-year signal, as well as a trend. With each contributing ration of the quasi-periodicity discussed, the trend and the 60-year timescale oscillation of temperature variation are the most prominent. (2) It has been noticed that whether on century-scale or 60-year scales, the global temperature tends to descend in the coming 20 years. (3) On quasi 60-year timescale, temperature abrupt changes in China precede those in the global and NH, which provides a denotation for global climate changes. Signs also show a drop in temperature in China on century scale in the next 20 years. (4) The dominant contribution of CO2 concentration to global temperature variation is the trend. However, its influence weight on global temperature variation accounts for no more than 40.19%, smaller than those of the natural climate changes on the rest four timescales. Despite the increasing trend in atmospheric CO2 concentration, the patterns of 20-year and 60-year oscillation of global temperature are all in falling. Therefore, if CO2 concentration remains constant at present, the CO2 greenhouse effect will be deficient in counterchecking the natural cooling of global climate in the following 20 years. Even though the CO2 greenhouse effect on global climate change is unsuspicious, it could have been excessively exaggerated. It is high time to re-consider the trend of global climate changes.

If anyone sees a peer-reviewed rejection - as opposed to the hundreds or thousands of unsupported internet comments - let me know.

You agree? then why post a comment (in bold letters) about a drop of 0.1 Degree F in the first half of 2008? One useless data point deserves another. Greenhouse effect is probably not going to be enough to counter the eventual arrival of a micro or global ice age, but it's not a forgone conclusion that the cooling you mentioned marks the start of the micro or full scale ice age.

Let's say the ice age does not arrive for another 100 years, by that time, the warming will have flooded good chunks of the planet. So, thank you for pointing out the obvious, but what are we supposed to do for the next 100 years? pray for the arrival of the ice age so it can undo the warming we're causing?

*$&^$! How long have you been on the internet?

A very common practice is to highlight (bold or italics) quoted material.

As for your flooding claim, that is pure nonsense. Even the IPCC, alarmists that they are, predicts a worst case rise of no more than 13 inches by 2100.

Now, let's consider another question.

If CO2 is increasing at the rates it is and CO2 causes global warming, how can the temp be decreasing for even one year?