have you consulted with an ortho doc?

One of the most affective things I know to assist joint and other injuries and encourage healing is cold pressed Castor oil. Use it daily on the joint and before and after demanding use with a pack. I used it to eliminate my moms pancreitis and my own neck stiffness. It can do so much. Pm me if you wish more info and where to get the supplies.

Hope this offer some help. It really works, just requires a little effort.

I might also suggest body therapies, like acupunture and massage. Craniosacral therapy is very useful for injury recovery.

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Hi Ian, my name is Richard and if you saw my post or even if your didn't, bum knees are my problem. I played baseball for years and it cost me dearly in terms of destruction. I was a walker, but not a runner like you. I loved to walk in rough terrain which now isn't even a remote possibility. I know you said that swimming was a thing for you, but some kind soul in this group suggested that for me and it has at least given me back some upper body toning and a bit less flab around the middle. As for my knees and healing the doc says nothing but knee replacement is ever going to be of benefit to me. I am way to far down the path of various operations to have any hope left in those. I don't want the replacements for I have not heard of a lot of successes in that area. There are such things as static exercisers that actually make your entire body move and you can do things like partial sit ups and what have you while you are using it. I have found this to be a help in both knees and my back. I will say a lot of good things about them, but one of the best is that I feel like I have been lubricated and that helps a lot. Good luck and I am going to watch this thread as well to see if anyone comes up with an idea that is new and workable. Peace, good luck and health, Richard

My first suggestion would be to see a good sports doctor to determine the extent of your injury. I was once a distance runner. I ran an average of 30 to 40 miles per week. I also played racquet ball three to four times a week. I was much younger then and recovered quickly from injuries, especially those stupid overuse, push too hard injuries. My first serious knee injury resulted from running the Equinox Marathon (Fairbanks, AK). I was diagnosed with chondromalacia. I was also fitted with custom orthotics because I underpronated. I was back to running within a month. I ran the Mayor’s Midnight Sun Marathon (Anchorage, AK) the following year and was again plagued with knee problems. Again, I healed quickly. I ran the Sun Bear Marathon (Eielson AFB, AK) the following year...Same story. During all of this I played a lot of racquet ball, stressing my knees to their limit. After Alaska I moved to Texas and then Colorado. I continued to run daily, but no longer ran marathons. I still played competitive games of racquet ball. Injuries came and went – I really never noticed that they were becoming more frequent. When you’re young the long term consequences never cross your mind and eventually you pay the piper. The abuse finally caught up with me in 1989 - especially my right knee. I could barely walk. I couldn’t sit without constantly straightening and re-bending my leg. Driving posed a real challenge. Stretching was impossible. Swimming actually made it worse. My doctor referred me to a physical therapist that specialized in sports injuries, stating that surgery was our next option if rehabilitation didn’t work. My therapist started me out slowly spinning with little tension on a stationary bike - We gradually increased speed, tension and time. We also alternated between hot and cold compresses around my knee. We eventually included light weights and spinning on an elliptical glider. The objective was balanced strengthening of my leg muscles, especially around my knees. I also applied crushed/powdered aspirin, mixed with DMSO on my knee (my own remedy). I bought a good road bike and started training. I participated in my first organized ride (Courage Classic) during 1991. I’ve already logged over 35K pain free miles (pain free knee miles - butt's another story). I also continue to use the elliptical glider every morning and lift lower body weights twice a week. I no longer run or play racquet ball...I suppose I could, but have chosen to stay with low impact exercise. I recently discovered PK5 for those pesky overuse aches and pains. Again, see a good sports doctor.

I participated in the Bataan Memorial Death March this past March and midway through my knee was really giving me trouble and I couldn't finish the marathon. I could hardly walk the next day. However, I am an avid bicycle rider and when I got home I got on my bicycle and my knee never once stopped me from riding my bicycle.

What I'm saying is I think bicycle riding is the best exercise in the world. My knee got fine and I'm still riding my bicycle like crazy. Haven't done another marathon and not sure I will, but will ride my bicycle as long as I can.