The Kinsey scale, the most well-known method of labeling orientation goes from 0 to 5. 0 being totally heterosexual; 5 being totally homosexual. It takes into account fantasy and sexual history. So a virgin could still place him or herself somewhere on the scale.

For some people their orientation is fluid during their lifetime, going from a 2 in youth to a 4 in midlife, for example. Others differ widely in thought vs. deed, being a 1 in practice but a 4 in fantasy, for instance.

Other people may think they know your number (pun intended) but actually, we get to label ourselves. That's how you get lesbians who have sex with men and heterosexual men who have sex with other men and bisexual virgins. When it comes to human sexuality, nothing is set in stone.

Since I am one of those new people around here that seem to get in on most sexual threads, why should I stop now?? :)

As Isadora said, I think women do tend to change on a scale during their lifetime. I have gone up to 3-4 a couple times for a couple week period since I may have had very frequent and intense girl on girl fantasies during those periods.

Right now, I am about a 2. The girl-girl fantasies I am having now revolve around threesome fantasies I have been having a lot lately (last several months). They are not fantasies that involve lots of girl-girl action. Just a little.

Clare brings up an excellent point. This discussion is intended to include bisexuality, so discussions of fantasies such as Clare's are very much on topic.

I agree that women's sexuality is likely more complex than that of men.

That being said, I am lesbian, and my favorite flavor of porn is Male/Male.

Oh, Loren!

You have just astonished me.

I am imagining a group of Lesbians hanging out, drinking beer, and watching male/male porn.

Is this -- possible?

Ladies, of whatever your sexual orientation (at least this week), what do you have to say about this? How do you respond to male/male porn?

I guess I'm pretty "conservative" when it comes to sex. My erotic fantasies always involve male/female, or even an occasional heterosexual threesome, male/male/female.

I just don't see what the attraction, to men, is on woman/woman sex. It doesn't do anything for me.

You said "For myself, I'm a guy. I don't really understand why all women aren't at least Bi, since women are so beautiful and feel so wonderful"

Sure women are all of that, but another women does not have the same smell of men, penis, hairy chest, stubble on the face. I think all that is part of the sexual turn-on for me, not all the softness, and breasts of a women.

I like most things about men *-)