What is your intent? By the way you wrote, I cannot figure out where you are going with this. He is a chronic liar and now you are what? Hoping that he will change? You won't leave him because?

When someone establishes firmly over a long period of time what his charascter is, how many times do you need your face wiped in it before you will take some kind of action to put your life in a healthier place?

What would I do? I wouldn't spend ten minutes of my precious life with someone who has been given every chance to change into someone honest and decent and prefers to be a liar and a cheat. I would get out because he won't change, I am worthy of far better than that and you can stay but this is what your life will be like until he has his stroke then you will have him a prisoner in a bed on life support but you will be so guilty that you will stay the next 20 years taking care of him, cleaning his diapers and praying he dies one day before you do!

Mostly just trying to get my thoughts in order and wondering if anyone else had been in this position.

Maybe you should consider seeking short-term counseling to get your thoughts in order. Sometimes, another person in the room to talk such painful things through with can be a big help - especially if that person is not involved in the problem and will listen to you. People who have a stake in the problem will tell you what they did and it may not be what you need to work on. A counselor will help you find your own answers and also give you a shoulder to cry on if there is a lot of pent-up hurt you need to get rid of.

Best of luck.

Thanks Milt I have an appointment with a counselor so we'll see how things go.